Hate to be blunt... why buy a CM7 over the CM7-GT?

[Dirty Halo]

I've read all the posts, but for the life of me STILL can't tell if one sounds better than the other. Patterns and materials aside...how about PURE sonic quality?

What am I getting SONICALLY for the extra money on a CM7? The actual sound.

Anyone with real info on that specific question.

-andrews

DIRTY HALO www.dirtyhalo.com

[darkwater]

Well,...

If you've read all the posts, then you know they haven't SHIPPED the first units yet. So NO ONE, except of course the folks at Wunder, is going to be able to answer that question.

The GT mic is not a true U47 design, so it's not going to sound the same. Where the compromise is made, remains to be heard. The difference in tubes will certainly make it sound different.... who knows how...yet.

Have a little patience and wait for the inevitable shootouts. With all the reviews already in on the CM7, I've half a mind to order one of those tomorrow. And I might. Because I have no patience. Be smarter than me.

[Ted]

The CM 7 is a good sounding mic, used it on a female vox recently and it's the real thing for sure, a bit hyped but in a good kind of way. I have a Wunder 49 coming in a few weeks, anxious to check it out...

Thanks,
Ted.

[jbuntz]

The CM7 sounds great indeed. for some reason I don't like it a ton through neves. it sounds amazing through the TAB 78.

[TonyBelmont]

They are obviously very different microphones... The biggest similarity is they both look similar to a U47.

The CM7 GT uses a different tube, circuit and implementation. Not to mention a different capsule.

The CM7 uses a steel tube, while the GT uses.... you guessed it a GLASS tube!

I would wait for credible reviews to come before anointing the new mic as equal to the CM7. I have always preferred the steel tube to the glass tube in U47's and clones. This is similar to the differences between the Peluso 47 & 47 LE (although both of those use the same capsule).

I'm sure they will sound quite different from each other.. So, let's wait for them to start shipping before we consider this on the same level as the CM7.

[gainreduction]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Not to mention a different capsule.

You can get the CM7-GT with the capsule of your choice. Stock it comes with the K47, the same M7 as in the CM7 for an extra $200 charge.

I have ordered a CM7-GT and will get it about mid-april. The waiting time at the ordering moment was 4 weeks from march 1st and shipping will take a while since I'm on the other side of the planet.

I'll be happy to post a review including samples once I get it.

[C/G]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

They are obviously very different microphones... The biggest similarity is they both look similar to a U47.

The CM7 GT uses a different tube, circuit and implementation. Not to mention a different capsule.

According to the posts by Mike at Wunder about the GT, the capsules are the same. The differences are the tube, pattern switch in mic body opposed to being in the power supply as in the GT, different cable and Tuchel connector (smaller, more affordable) and as mentioned different electronics. The CM-7 will have the really expensive swivel mount which is probably another $400 touch by itself. The transformer is the same on both. The steel tube is an expensive item, plus the polar pattern switch mounted in the capsule is an expensive piece in it's own right. All the extras add up to the the price difference.

If I had the cash, I'd still buy a regular CM-7 over the GT and think nothing of it, but I don't, so the GT is for me.

Don't think of the CM7 is a rip off now because they really are two different mics.

[Schmacko]

Originally Posted by C/G

According to the posts by Mike at Wunder about the GT, the capsules are the same. The differences are the tube, pattern switch in mic body opposed to being in the power supply as in the GT, different cable and Tuchel connector (smaller, more affordable) and as mentioned different electronics. The CM-7 will have the really expensive swivel mount which is probably another $400 touch by itself. The transformer is the same on both. The steel tube is an expensive item, plus the polar pattern switch mounted in the capsule is an expensive piec in it's own right. All the extras add up to the the price difference.

If I had the cash, I'd still buy a regular CM-7 over the GT and think nothing of it, but I don't, so the GT is for me.

Don't think of the CM7 is a rip off now because they really are two different mics.

The CM7 Tuchel connector cable isn't swivel mount anymore.

[sekim]

Originally Posted by gainreduction

You can get the CM7-GT with the capsule of your choice. Stock it comes with the K47, the same M7 as in the CM7 for an extra $200 charge.

I have ordered a CM7-GT and will get it about mid-april. The waiting time at the ordering moment was 4 weeks from march 1st and shipping will take a while since I'm on the other side of the planet.

I'll be happy to post a review including samples once I get it.

Do you know who sources the K47 and M7 capsules?

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by C/G

According to the posts by Mike at Wunder about the GT, the capsules are the same.

The capsules are different(it uses the K47), but it can be special ordered with the M7 at an additional cost.

[Mark Warren]

For an additional $500, I will paint your CM7-GT to look like the CM7, at least from a distance...

[C/G]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

The capsules are different(it uses the K47), but it can be special ordered with the M7 at an additional cost.

Yes. Same as the CM-7 since I know the CM-7 can come with the K47 if desired. I loked into that a while back since I have a lot of mics with the PVC M7.

Sorry for the confusion.

[darkwater]

Fellas,

The original post here was a different question. Not "what are the differences in components?".. We've all read over and over that stuff. His question was "what are the real world sonic differences going to be?".

I don't think anyone can answer that until somebody has one in hand.

[gregohb]

So the next follow up question is... how do the two capsules sound on the CM7-Gt - the K or M which is a few hundred bucks more?

[author]

Any new comments on the subject?

[SpiderM69]

I beleive this is the thread where JohnKenn, who's owned both mic's, mentions the difference.

My Wunder CM7 is now FANTASTIC

If not, then search on his userID, I know he posts about the difference somewhere.

[Jamz]

Originally Posted by Ted

The CM 7 is a good sounding mic, used it on a female vox recently and it's the real thing for sure, a bit hyped but in a good kind of way. I have a Wunder 49 coming in a few weeks, anxious to check it out...

Thanks,
Ted.

Hi Ted. How's that CM49 working out for ya?

[elambo]

I have one of each (one for the home studio). Simply put, the GT has the same sound but it lacks a touch of the mojo of the full-up CM7. Just a little bit. It's still a Rolls Royce but with carpet that's not quite as plush - some wouldn't even notice. I love 'em both and would be happy using either. Although, if Ella Fitzgerald miraculously demanded some studio time, I'd probably reach only for the CM7.

I once had to use a GT to punch in a line that was originally recorded on a CM7. There was no obvious difference. The inconsistency of the singer's voice and the varied mic technique contributed much more to any subtle differences than the fact that these were recorded with different mics.

[RonCarlston]

Originally Posted by elambo

I once had to use a GT to punch in a line that was originally recorded on a CM7. There was no obvious difference. The inconsistency of the singer's voice and the varied mic technique contributed much more to any subtle differences than the fact that these were recorded with different mics.