Digi 192 Latency vs. Apogee Latency Both with HD

barryjohns · 11th February 2007, 12:30 AM

I have read in parts of other threads that the 192 I/O works seamlessly with HD as you would expect, that you will get the best latency performance. In some of those threads I have read that when using Apogee Converters with the Apogee HD Card you will get more latency when recording. Can you shed some light on the performance perspective alone? I believe the general consensus is that Apogee and other like them are better than the 192 in sound quality. Not really wanting to debate that in this thread. I am looking at strictly performance/reliability.

kittonian · 11th February 2007, 01:25 AM

The Apogees and many of the other 3rd party converters that have PT|HD i/o option cards do not share the same latency as the Digi 192 i/o. Therefore you have to manually compensate within PT in order to utilize outboard gear as i/o inserts in your mix.

The Lynx Aurora however is identical to the Digi 192 i/o in terms of latency and operation. You get 16x16 analog and 16x16 digital via AES/EBU simultaneously at sample rates up to 192khz in a 1U rack configuration. The units sound great and are as close to the sound of a Prism ADA-8 as I've ever heard (0 coloration in sound). I have mine clocked to a Big Ben to accommodate multiple digital pieces in the studio (I like to keep everything locked to the same clock).

studilaroche · 11th February 2007, 03:53 AM

Anybody have any specs on this? How much more latent is the Apogee in this situation?
Ben

kittonian · 11th February 2007, 05:46 PM

It's actually the opposite. The Apogee is a much faster converter than the 192. The Lynx is as well but with the LT-HD card the converter speed is slowed down to exactly match the timing of the 192.

Apogee has a tool on their site called AD-CALC. You can use that to gauge exactly what you'd need to do in order to have PT in perfect time when using i/o inserts.

Ruudman · 11th February 2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barryjohns

I believe the general consensus is that Apogee and other like them are better than the 192 in sound quality. Not really wanting to debate that in this thread.

Not wanting to debate either... but I believe there exist no such consensus

ruudman

thephatboi · 11th February 2007, 07:34 PM

what Joshua said....

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11th February 2007, 12:30 AM	#1
barryjohns Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,366	Digi 192 Latency vs. Apogee Latency Both with HD I have read in parts of other threads that the 192 I/O works seamlessly with HD as you would expect, that you will get the best latency performance. In some of those threads I have read that when using Apogee Converters with the Apogee HD Card you will get more latency when recording. Can you shed some light on the performance perspective alone? I believe the general consensus is that Apogee and other like them are better than the 192 in sound quality. Not really wanting to debate that in this thread. I am looking at strictly performance/reliability.

11th February 2007, 01:25 AM	#2
kittonian Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 2,393	The Apogees and many of the other 3rd party converters that have PT\|HD i/o option cards do not share the same latency as the Digi 192 i/o. Therefore you have to manually compensate within PT in order to utilize outboard gear as i/o inserts in your mix. The Lynx Aurora however is identical to the Digi 192 i/o in terms of latency and operation. You get 16x16 analog and 16x16 digital via AES/EBU simultaneously at sample rates up to 192khz in a 1U rack configuration. The units sound great and are as close to the sound of a Prism ADA-8 as I've ever heard (0 coloration in sound). I have mine clocked to a Big Ben to accommodate multiple digital pieces in the studio (I like to keep everything locked to the same clock). __________________ Joshua Aaron President/Chief Engineer AudioLot/AudioLot Studios High End Pro Audio Sales & Consulting Recording/Music Production/Mixing http://www.audiolot.com

11th February 2007, 03:53 AM	#3
studilaroche Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 174	Anybody have any specs on this? How much more latent is the Apogee in this situation? Ben __________________ http://www.myspace.com/disguisethesky or http://studilaroche.podomatic.com also, "Is it because record company exec's are pedophiles? Who knows." -triez

11th February 2007, 05:46 PM	#4
kittonian Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 2,393	It's actually the opposite. The Apogee is a much faster converter than the 192. The Lynx is as well but with the LT-HD card the converter speed is slowed down to exactly match the timing of the 192. Apogee has a tool on their site called AD-CALC. You can use that to gauge exactly what you'd need to do in order to have PT in perfect time when using i/o inserts. __________________ Joshua Aaron President/Chief Engineer AudioLot/AudioLot Studios High End Pro Audio Sales & Consulting Recording/Music Production/Mixing http://www.audiolot.com

11th February 2007, 07:34 PM	#6
thephatboi Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: LA Posts: 474	what Joshua said.... __________________ Sean Ingoldsby Real Time Studios Ojai, California http://homepage.mac.com/seaningo/ "Dung beetles with ostentatious horns tend to have smaller testicles" source unknown, as read in Harpers Findings, Dec. 2006.

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