What's up with King's X?

Jeff A. Roberts · 29th January 2007, 08:11 PM

King's X has been at WireWorld since Saturday, January 28, working on their follow up to OGRETONES, and no doubt dazzling participants in Michael's latest workshop.

So how's it going???????

Where's the pictures?

Blast9 · 29th January 2007, 08:28 PM

Yeah! c'mon!

Jason Poulin · 29th January 2007, 09:20 PM

As I remember last year their recording at Wireworld, must have one of the years best threads!!!!

Michael never ceases to amaze.

Bring it on!!! : )

**mwagener** · 30th January 2007, 05:32 AM

Hey everybody.

Yes we are flying along. The workshop and the intense recording sessions are keeping me very occupied. We set up drums on Saturday and the day ended with a line check, fortunately everything worked. Sunday we got drum sounds (1 1/2 hours) then set up for guitar and bass and tracked the first 2 songs. Pictures follow (forgot my camera at the studio). The new songs are absolutely great. Today we got 4 more recorded, the guys were on a roll. I'm pretty pooped right now and ready to get some sleep.

I'll post some pictures in the next few days.

not_so_new · 30th January 2007, 05:34 AM

I CAN'T WAIT!!!

That was one of the best threads ever.

Jeff A. Roberts · 30th January 2007, 04:15 PM

At the "Mother of all Workshops" Ty had to be persuaded not to use a Pod.

And now I hear from my inside spy that Doug is using a Berhinger product in his signal chain!

What is it's function, and is there not a better tool for the job?

Blast9 · 30th January 2007, 11:20 PM

Uh-oh!

maybe just for pretty lights?

**mwagener** · 31st January 2007, 04:07 AM

Ok, the first few pictures.

Drum setup. Notice that I am using only two MicKing stands from Latchlake for most the drum mics, great system.

Somebody got a "B" endorsement. We are using the Behringer for the low end of the bass. The distorted midrange goes through the Ashdown and the Di goes into the prototype of the MW1. Gil was so nice to send me a Tonelux rack to check out, which I will do soon. You can also see the JM130 mic pre from JMKAudio (under the Tonelux rack), a very clean natural sounding mic pre which is handling the Overheads on this session.

And finally for today the Randall RM20 which goes really well with Ty's "old" super Strat:

More later

Prickstein · 31st January 2007, 05:26 AM

So you're using the RM20 for the bulk of the guitar tones then are you Michael? Are you liking this more than the RM4?
Which module gets the most workout?

Matej · 31st January 2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwagener

... Somebody got a "B" endorsement. We are using the Behringer for the low end of the bass. The distorted midrange goes through the Ashdown and the Di goes into the prototype of the MW1. ...

Hey Michael,

I'm not sure I got this right, are you talking about Dug?
Damn, you're gonna record his bass through a Behringer, it's gonna sound amazing and I'll be forced to buy that damn piece of junk!!

Thanks for the update!! Please keep them coming...

Blast9 · 31st January 2007, 10:51 AM

Wot?? No double stereo SVT and Traynor?

nosebleedaudio · 31st January 2007, 12:07 PM

Michael you need some more cables on the floor, I can still see the carpet...

Blast9 · 31st January 2007, 01:50 PM

LOL

---

What are the Yellow B-word pedals? (Boss super OD clones?) --- And is that a DigiTech Bad Monkey I spy there too? (the green pedal) --- As you can see I'm bored of looking at slutty rack gear: Only interested in cheap pedals

BTW still on the subject of B-Word, I'd be interested to hear your opinion of the Electro harmonix Deluxe Memory Man clone they're bringing out, if dUg has brought one along (analog & true bypass)

**mwagener** · 31st January 2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickstein

So you're using the RM20 for the bulk of the guitar tones then are you Michael? Are you liking this more than the RM4?
Which module gets the most workout?

I absolutely love that little amp. Ty is using it with his XTC module right now for the basic rhythm tracks while we're tracking drums. We might replace some stuff later with the RM4 or add other sounds to it.

**mwagener** · 31st January 2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

Hey Michael,

. . . it's gonna sound amazing and I'll be forced to buy that damn piece of junk!!

... and invite dUg over to play the tracks

dUg worked on the demos using this setup, so we start with what he worked out. It doesn't mean we won't replace sounds later. All of Ty's and dUg's track are recorded DI as well, so we can go back at any point and realamp them again.

**mwagener** · 31st January 2007, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blast9

LOL

---

What are the Yellow B-word pedals? (Boss super OD clones?) --- And is that a DigiTech Bad Monkey I spy there too? (the green pedal) --- As you can see I'm bored of looking at slutty rack gear: Only interested in cheap pedals

BTW still on the subject of B-Word, I'd be interested to hear your opinion of the Electro harmonix Deluxe Memory Man clone they're bringing out, if dUg has brought one along (analog & true bypass)

The yellow pedals are EQs which dUg uses to divide his bass into hi and low frequencies. The low end goes through the Behringer and the hi frequencies go through the Ashdown amp and into a Randall 4x12 guitar cab which I record from the direct out of the cab. I'm not sure if there will be any more Behringer gear used except for the initial bass tracks I think that is all he brought.

warhead · 31st January 2007, 05:17 PM

Hey Michael, will the Safe Sound P1 be used on their album?

War

**mwagener** · 31st January 2007, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warhead

Hey Michael, will the Safe Sound P1 be used on their album?

War

Yes

old_skul · 31st January 2007, 06:27 PM

Michael, when you refer to Ty's "old" super Strats, are you talking about his 80s Elites?

I finally broke down and bought one last year and I'm working on tones with it. Great guitar.

**mwagener** · 31st January 2007, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_skul

Michael, when you refer to Ty's "old" super Strats, are you talking about his 80s Elites?

I finally broke down and bought one last year and I'm working on tones with it. Great guitar.

Yes, the Elite has to be the Holy Grail of Strats

Blast9 · 31st January 2007, 10:18 PM

Ty used to comment about how noisy the electronics were on those... is it something you can put up with or has he had them modded?

***

Saw a Tele elite the other day in Denmark street London (no tthe cheapest place to buy gear) Man, it was like £900

2leod · 31st January 2007, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwagener

Somebody got a "B" endorsement. We are using the Behringer for the low end of the bass. The distorted midrange goes through the Ashdown and the Di goes into the prototype of the MW1.

...

It doesn't mean we won't replace sounds later. All of Ty's and dUg's track are recorded DI as well, so we can go back at any point and realamp them again.

Slick! So "B" gets bragging rights without causing too much collateral damage.

taturana · 31st January 2007, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwagener

Yes, the Elite has to be the Holy Grail of Strats

i use a 1984 sunburst stratocaster elite as my main axe for more than 20 years , it's an awesome guitar... i bought it brand new in 1984.... i wish i could buy a couple more... i found some on ebay, but they're are really hard to find... BTW it's the only gear i have listed in my GS profile... i love that guitar!

KingDaddyO · 31st January 2007, 11:21 PM

Hi Michael,

Thanks so much for sharing these sessions, as well as your awesome expertise throughout these forums.

I see what looks like a fully populated SCA CH01 chassis under the Tonelux & JM130 racks. If you manage to get any spare time

, I would really appreciate if you could describe the modules in use, and what will be running through them?

allencollins · 1st February 2007, 12:05 AM

Gimme a Skinny or Gimme a Fat

Blast9 · 1st February 2007, 12:06 AM

"To be a B man"

allencollins · 1st February 2007, 12:08 AM

ozone disapperaing in the sky
bud man asking us why ask why
if I could find my magazine this bug would die
I complain

allencollins · 1st February 2007, 12:08 AM

Sometime, I want to give
Sometime, I want to take
Sometime, I want to run
Sometime, I want to stay.
Sometime, sometime, sometime, sometime.
Sometime, I want to love
Sometime, I want to hate
Sometime, I want to build
Sometime, I want to break
Sometime, sometime, sometime, sometime.
Sometime, I want to live
Sometime, I want to die
Sometime, I want to believe
Sometime, I want to get high and fly.

allencollins · 1st February 2007, 12:09 AM

bottom line is is kings X is the best fuc*ing band ever

warhead · 1st February 2007, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwagener

Yes

You just made my day.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you have planned for it?

War

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29th January 2007, 08:11 PM	#1
Jeff A. Roberts Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 272	What's up with King's X? King's X has been at WireWorld since Saturday, January 28, working on their follow up to OGRETONES, and no doubt dazzling participants in Michael's latest workshop. So how's it going??????? Where's the pictures? __________________ Jeff Roberts Latch Lake Music Eagan, Minnesota http://www.latchlakemusic.com

29th January 2007, 08:28 PM	#2
Blast9 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 2,672	Yeah! c'mon! __________________ :: my band is called protoangel [size="1"]. My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top):: Jap Tele with fat frets (rude and fat):: . My amps: 1973 Hiwatt DR504::Framus Dragon ... Latest purchases Kel Audio HM-2d TC Electronic Nova System, Chameleon Labs 7602 Digi 002 + PTLE, Addictive Drums

29th January 2007, 09:20 PM	#3
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,684	As I remember last year their recording at Wireworld, must have one of the years best threads!!!! Michael never ceases to amaze. Bring it on!!! : ) __________________ most important gear I own are my ears! visit my band www.apparatusmusic.com www.myspace.com/apparatusnumetal

30th January 2007, 05:32 AM	#4
mwagener High End Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Music City USA Posts: 2,745	Hey everybody. Yes we are flying along. The workshop and the intense recording sessions are keeping me very occupied. We set up drums on Saturday and the day ended with a line check, fortunately everything worked. Sunday we got drum sounds (1 1/2 hours) then set up for guitar and bass and tracked the first 2 songs. Pictures follow (forgot my camera at the studio). The new songs are absolutely great. Today we got 4 more recorded, the guys were on a roll. I'm pretty pooped right now and ready to get some sleep. I'll post some pictures in the next few days. __________________ Michael Wagener http://www.michaelwagener.com Production workshops at WireWorld Studio Next workshop confirmed for September 20th through 28th. We will have the Brauner VMA, VM1, VMX, Phantom and Phanthera to check out during this workshop.

30th January 2007, 05:34 AM	#5
not_so_new Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,588	I CAN'T WAIT!!! That was one of the best threads ever. __________________ "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." H.L. Mencken 1880 - 1956 ____________________________________________ Michael

30th January 2007, 04:15 PM	#6
Jeff A. Roberts Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 272	Say it ain't so! At the "Mother of all Workshops" Ty had to be persuaded not to use a Pod. And now I hear from my inside spy that Doug is using a Berhinger product in his signal chain! What is it's function, and is there not a better tool for the job? __________________ Jeff Roberts Latch Lake Music Eagan, Minnesota http://www.latchlakemusic.com

30th January 2007, 11:20 PM	#7
Blast9 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 2,672	Uh-oh! maybe just for pretty lights? __________________ :: my band is called protoangel [size="1"]. My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top):: Jap Tele with fat frets (rude and fat):: . My amps: 1973 Hiwatt DR504::Framus Dragon ... Latest purchases Kel Audio HM-2d TC Electronic Nova System, Chameleon Labs 7602 Digi 002 + PTLE, Addictive Drums

31st January 2007, 04:07 AM	#8
mwagener High End Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Music City USA Posts: 2,745	Ok, the first few pictures. Drum setup. Notice that I am using only two MicKing stands from Latchlake for most the drum mics, great system. Somebody got a "B" endorsement. We are using the Behringer for the low end of the bass. The distorted midrange goes through the Ashdown and the Di goes into the prototype of the MW1. Gil was so nice to send me a Tonelux rack to check out, which I will do soon. You can also see the JM130 mic pre from JMKAudio (under the Tonelux rack), a very clean natural sounding mic pre which is handling the Overheads on this session. And finally for today the Randall RM20 which goes really well with Ty's "old" super Strat: More later __________________ Michael Wagener http://www.michaelwagener.com Production workshops at WireWorld Studio Next workshop confirmed for September 20th through 28th. We will have the Brauner VMA, VM1, VMX, Phantom and Phanthera to check out during this workshop.

31st January 2007, 05:26 AM	#9
Prickstein Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 438	So you're using the RM20 for the bulk of the guitar tones then are you Michael? Are you liking this more than the RM4? Which module gets the most workout? __________________ Every day I learn something new (with a little help from my slutz), and that keeps me going. www.myspace.com/rickhollis Last edited by Prickstein; 31st January 2007 at 06:55 AM. Reason: I can't spell and Michael can and English is my first language.

31st January 2007, 10:51 AM	#11
Blast9 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 2,672	Wot?? No double stereo SVT and Traynor? Attached Thumbnails __________________ :: my band is called protoangel [size="1"]. My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top):: Jap Tele with fat frets (rude and fat):: . My amps: 1973 Hiwatt DR504::Framus Dragon ... Latest purchases Kel Audio HM-2d TC Electronic Nova System, Chameleon Labs 7602 Digi 002 + PTLE, Addictive Drums

31st January 2007, 12:07 PM	#12
nosebleedaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,195	Michael you need some more cables on the floor, I can still see the carpet...

31st January 2007, 01:50 PM	#13
Blast9 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 2,672	LOL --- What are the Yellow B-word pedals? (Boss super OD clones?) --- And is that a DigiTech Bad Monkey I spy there too? (the green pedal) --- As you can see I'm bored of looking at slutty rack gear: Only interested in cheap pedals BTW still on the subject of B-Word, I'd be interested to hear your opinion of the Electro harmonix Deluxe Memory Man clone they're bringing out, if dUg has brought one along (analog & true bypass) __________________ :: my band is called protoangel [size="1"]. My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top):: Jap Tele with fat frets (rude and fat):: . My amps: 1973 Hiwatt DR504::Framus Dragon ... Latest purchases Kel Audio HM-2d TC Electronic Nova System, Chameleon Labs 7602 Digi 002 + PTLE, Addictive Drums

31st January 2007, 05:17 PM	#17
warhead Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 7,775	Hey Michael, will the Safe Sound P1 be used on their album? War __________________ Warren Dent Email: warren (at) frontendaudio (dot) com Front End Audio Sells Gear Tuesday Testers: Hear the Gear Shootouts Product Videos on YouTube: Overviews of Gear

31st January 2007, 06:27 PM	#19
old_skul Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 17	Michael, when you refer to Ty's "old" super Strats, are you talking about his 80s Elites? I finally broke down and bought one last year and I'm working on tones with it. Great guitar.

31st January 2007, 10:18 PM	#21
Blast9 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 2,672	Ty used to comment about how noisy the electronics were on those... is it something you can put up with or has he had them modded? * Saw a Tele elite the other day in Denmark street London (no tthe cheapest place to buy gear) Man, it was like £900 __________________ :: my band is called protoangel [size="1"]. My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top):: Jap Tele with fat frets (rude and fat):: . My amps: 1973 Hiwatt DR504::Framus Dragon ... Latest purchases** Kel Audio HM-2d TC Electronic Nova System, Chameleon Labs 7602 Digi 002 + PTLE, Addictive Drums

31st January 2007, 11:21 PM	#24
KingDaddyO Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,270	Hi Michael, Thanks so much for sharing these sessions, as well as your awesome expertise throughout these forums. I see what looks like a fully populated SCA CH01 chassis under the Tonelux & JM130 racks. If you manage to get any spare time , I would really appreciate if you could describe the modules in use, and what will be running through them? __________________ Cheers, Thom Now, when there's no longer surface noise and you actually have the ability to have the most extraordinary dynamic range, people aren't using it. T Bone Burnett The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them. Albert Einstein I'm not black, but there's a whole lot of times I wish I could say I'm not white. Frank Zappa

1st February 2007, 12:05 AM	#25
allencollins Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manchester by the Sea, MA Posts: 3,350	Gimme a Skinny or Gimme a Fat

1st February 2007, 12:06 AM	#26
Blast9 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 2,672	"To be a B man" __________________ :: my band is called protoangel [size="1"]. My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top):: Jap Tele with fat frets (rude and fat):: . My amps: 1973 Hiwatt DR504::Framus Dragon ... Latest purchases Kel Audio HM-2d TC Electronic Nova System, Chameleon Labs 7602 Digi 002 + PTLE, Addictive Drums

1st February 2007, 12:08 AM	#27
allencollins Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manchester by the Sea, MA Posts: 3,350	ozone disapperaing in the sky bud man asking us why ask why if I could find my magazine this bug would die I complain

1st February 2007, 12:09 AM	#29
allencollins Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manchester by the Sea, MA Posts: 3,350	bottom line is is kings X is the best fuc*ing band ever