mixing console

artapril · 8th January 2004, 11:57 PM

Hi

I know this subject sucks, but...

Isn´t there a used console out there that fits me?

32ch (no in-line) with moving faders (no vca; Uptown GML…)
16 preamps 16 line in
direct outs
no multitrack bussing needed
4 stereo or 8 mono returns not automated (even on pots)
4band parametric EQ (even stepped)
switchable Inserts
2 stereo + 4 mono Aux (pre/post switchable) or more
no quad bus design or simmilar, just plain stereo
no extensive center section, just summing
no dynamics
no coffee cocking
no SSL G or simmilar

I want a GREAT sounding desk without all this extra gimmicks.
I like the sound of API, something in that range (but without the price if possible)

What type of old used, but (pretty) reliable desk would you suggest (would be great if there are still some spare parts around)?

Thanks in advance

jbuntz · 9th January 2004, 01:30 AM

I don't claim to be an expert on consoles but MCI 600 series would be close to your needs. The pres have a bit of color. I think the eq's are detented. Pretty decent sounding from the stuff I've heard. Neotek Elan's are also supposed to be great for the money also with nice sounding pres. People have compared the Sytek pres (same company that makes Neoteks) to API's though they don't have alot in common especially being that they are transformerless and class A.

Drumsound · 9th January 2004, 09:10 AM

The Neotek mic pre sounds great as does the EQ. The Elan has one stereo and four mono sends. 24 busses, not direct outs. It's in-line. It sounds great.

artapril · 9th January 2004, 11:15 AM

Hi

I don´t know anything about the Neotek Elite.
Heard a lot of good things about the Series 30.

I thought abought the MCI jh500
Are they class a?

Thanks

Wiggy Neve Slut · 9th January 2004, 11:57 PM

MCI's are great.. go for a 416 or 428 begoer any others.. simply cos they are FANTASTIC sounding and easy to repair...

The 500 series is a BEAST sonically but runs on +36V rails so it can be a real; tech headache.. which was its major shortcoming.EVen though they do sound good.

Im not so sure about 600's.... it hink its lvoe hate hting.. you either love them or hate them.

Wiggy

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8th January 2004, 11:57 PM	#1
artapril Gear Head Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 54	mixing console Hi I know this subject sucks, but... Isn´t there a used console out there that fits me? 32ch (no in-line) with moving faders (no vca; Uptown GML…) 16 preamps 16 line in direct outs no multitrack bussing needed 4 stereo or 8 mono returns not automated (even on pots) 4band parametric EQ (even stepped) switchable Inserts 2 stereo + 4 mono Aux (pre/post switchable) or more no quad bus design or simmilar, just plain stereo no extensive center section, just summing no dynamics no coffee cocking no SSL G or simmilar I want a GREAT sounding desk without all this extra gimmicks. I like the sound of API, something in that range (but without the price if possible) What type of old used, but (pretty) reliable desk would you suggest (would be great if there are still some spare parts around)? Thanks in advance

9th January 2004, 09:10 AM	#3
Drumsound Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomington Il Posts: 3,597	The Neotek mic pre sounds great as does the EQ. The Elan has one stereo and four mono sends. 24 busses, not direct outs. It's in-line. It sounds great. __________________ Tony Oxide Lounge Recording See the Oxide Lounge! WWJMD? Come see me on the Tape Op boards! "If I have to flip flop more than three times in an A/B test to figure out what the difference is, I lose interest in that difference.'--Tchad Blake

9th January 2004, 11:57 PM	#5
Wiggy Neve Slut Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,843	MCI's are great.. go for a 416 or 428 begoer any others.. simply cos they are FANTASTIC sounding and easy to repair... The 500 series is a BEAST sonically but runs on +36V rails so it can be a real; tech headache.. which was its major shortcoming.EVen though they do sound good. Im not so sure about 600's.... it hink its lvoe hate hting.. you either love them or hate them. Wiggy __________________ If i see another 'Which neve clone is better thread... im seriously gona go postal!!!!!!!"

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9th January 2004, 01:30 AM	#2
jbuntz Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,650	I don't claim to be an expert on consoles but MCI 600 series would be close to your needs. The pres have a bit of color. I think the eq's are detented. Pretty decent sounding from the stuff I've heard. Neotek Elan's are also supposed to be great for the money also with nice sounding pres. People have compared the Sytek pres (same company that makes Neoteks) to API's though they don't have alot in common especially being that they are transformerless and class A.

9th January 2004, 11:15 AM	#4
artapril Gear Head Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 54	Hi I don´t know anything about the Neotek Elite. Heard a lot of good things about the Series 30. I thought abought the MCI jh500 Are they class a? Thanks