dat 48 to cd 44 transfer issue

[kellyr52]

Hello High Ender's-
I hope I'm in the right forum - my question is how best to transfer Dat 2 track tapes [ recorded at 48k to cd at 44.1k] - I have available these pieces of gear-
lucid gen x 6 - 96 word clock
emu 1820 interface - into cubase se
dbx 386 w/ digital out - dither etc
digitech vtp preamp w/ digital out - upgraded tubes
2 presonus eureka's w/ digital cards
swissonic ad-24 mk2
tag/mcclaren model 20 dac - high end home stereo dac
These tapes are coming out of a Tascam da20 mk2 or Sony dtc [datman] 7 and are going into a Tascam 2000 cd-r recorder or the Windows XP [ home ] Gateway that the emu feeds. I realize my equipment is not high-end but I am wondering if anyone has some suggestions as to how best to use what I've got or what I should buy to facilitate the process. Many of these tapes are live recordings of the finest of the last of the blues greats - done in small clubs w/ the Sony datman and some very nice button mics from Sonic Solutions [?] so i would like to do these justice - Thank you , Kelly

[16/44.1]

Originally Posted by kellyr52

Hello High Ender's-
I hope I'm in the right forum - my question is how best to transfer Dat 2 track tapes [ recorded at 48k to cd at 44.1k] - I have available these pieces of gear-
lucid gen x 6 - 96 word clock
emu 1820 interface - into cubase se
dbx 386 w/ digital out - dither etc
digitech vtp preamp w/ digital out - upgraded tubes
2 presonus eureka's w/ digital cards
swissonic ad-24 mk2
tag/mcclaren model 20 dac - high end home stereo dac
These tapes are coming out of a Tascam da20 mk2 or Sony dtc [datman] 7 and are going into a Tascam 2000 cd-r recorder or the Windows XP [ home ] Gateway that the emu feeds. I realize my equipment is not high-end but I am wondering if anyone has some suggestions as to how best to use what I've got or what I should buy to facilitate the process. Many of these tapes are live recordings of the finest of the last of the blues greats - done in small clubs w/ the Sony datman and some very nice button mics from Sonic Solutions [?] so i would like to do these justice - Thank you , Kelly

If the Tascam 2000 has digital in with a build in SRC use that gear only.
For playing the tapes use the Tascam DA20.
Only if the tapedrive is topnotch.
If the CD-R is having a build-in SRC, put id's on the 48kHz DAT and copy the tape.
If not, use an external.
Copy the tape thru the external SRC to a 44.1kHz DAT, put id's on the tape and burn the disc.
It's a very simpel and the most straightforward transfer from DAT to CD-R i can think of.
Forget the rest.....period.

[16/44.1]

By the way.....
Is the Tascam CD recorder capable to transform DAT start id's into CDR PQ's?

[kellyr52]

HELLO 16/44.1 AGAIN-
Thank's for the generous suggestions - I did finally get access to the Tascam 2000 manual and have now been able to use it to do the SRC in the transfer - will let you know how they sound and forward along some of the better shows once I get them done- Kelly

[16/44.1]

Originally Posted by kellyr52

HELLO 16/44.1 AGAIN-
Thank's for the generous suggestions - I did finally get access to the Tascam 2000 manual and have now been able to use it to do the SRC in the transfer - will let you know how they sound and forward along some of the better shows once I get them done- Kelly

Great!!
It can't be better than that.

Allthough it is also possible to transfer it via an external 24bits samplerateconverter to a PC's audiointerface to create a simple CD/DVD-ROM.
So don't trash your DAT's when done.
If you do, give them to me .

I would consider you try playing the 48k analog out to the 44.1 analog in of the CDR and just compare! Sometimes that is kinder and much less time consuming than SRC, and can sound better depending on the gear you use.

I learned this in the older days with early version of Protools LE, and found back in the 90s that my Sony DAT (not a portable) sounded better analog than digital transfer with SRC - but that was then, not neccesarily true anymore, but worth making a comparison on your own gear!

I do not trust CD recorders with builtin SRC and bitrate conversion unless they specify what kind of dither they use, and if they don't say I simply don't use them that way (unless I get to test it and find out how it sounds!).

My experience with PTLE and other DAWS shows me that there are different qualities of SRC, and the better ones take a lot longer, so if some CD recorder says it wil take 96K 24 bit and do realtime conversion to 44.1/16, how good can it be? That's my logic, any way, and unless there is a very clear description in the manual I just wouldn't trust them. Does the Tascam 2000 say how it does what it does?

Thanks,

<L>

[MIKEHARRIS]

I distrust built in SRC's as well...the early Marantz were questionable...but the TASCAM is better than most

[16/44.1]

Originally Posted by MIKEHARRIS

I distrust built in SRC's as well...the early Marantz were questionable...but the TASCAM is better than most

Like the Marantz CDR620?
I can absolutely hear no difference with that!!!!

[16/44.1]

Originally Posted by Lou Judson

I would consider you try playing the 48k analog out to the 44.1 analog in of the CDR and just compare! Sometimes that is kinder and much less time consuming than SRC, and can sound better depending on the gear you use.

He can try it, but a digital copy is less time consuming than analogue in.
There are some things you have to take care of.
Recording level, using a good cable, not to say the distortion that will be added with its DAC->ADC.............