Hand crafted labs products

flute player · 30th December 2006, 12:43 PM

Hello you all,

There are times that you can take a risk and think: " why not buying something out of the Ukraine "
Well, I did and bought several items from HCL with tremendous result.
I bought an affinity A2 preamp, solution s2 compressor and at this moment they are building a summing mixer for me.
I hear you guys and dolls think, what on earth to buy it form there.
But listen very carefully, I will say this only once ( allo allo ) THIS GEAR IS F..CKING AMAZING!!!

The people over there are friendly and real pro if it commes to manufactering tube gear.
I have a Dramer 1968 mercendarry and thought that it had a warm sound.
But comparing it to the solution from HCL it is like driving a Skoda or a Benz.

The most important thing is that you are buying it for less than all the big trade marks.
And the sound is the same as that from Tube tech.
So do your profit because this is not commercial talk but real enthousiasm.

digitalM · 30th December 2006, 01:06 PM

Hello flute player,
Interesting!Have you A/B'd the HCL units side by side to the TubeTech stuff?
Possible to post any samples?

Cheers, Martijn.

flute player · 30th December 2006, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalM

Hello flute player,
Interesting!Have you A/B'd the HCL units side by side to the TubeTech stuff?
Possible to post any samples?

Cheers, Martijn.

Well, I don't have a tube tech.
I have only done a test comparing it with my drawmer and that sound very warm.
But for a little sound experience you van listen to this thread.

Hand Crafted Lab Tube micamp and compressor, Blind test against 1176,v72,ADL and more

Vertigo2006 · 2nd January 2007, 08:46 PM

Viva la HCL! I have a Faust mic from HCL and it is AMAZING!
I just ordered one Faust more and Affinity pre amp.
Helpful people and very good quality!

V

Ruudman · 2nd January 2007, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flute player

Well, I don't have a tube tech.
I have only done a test comparing it with my drawmer and that sound very warm.
But for a little sound experience you van listen to this thread.

But why do you say the sound is the 'same' as Tube Tech then?
Even TT products differ: a LCA2B sounds different than CL1B...

What's your point?

ruudman

Labs · 2nd January 2007, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flute player

But listen very carefully, I will say this only once ( allo allo ) THIS GEAR IS F..CKING AMAZING!!!

HAHAHAHAHA RENE!

Gustav

**George Necola** · 2nd January 2007, 09:27 PM

Quote:

HAHAHAHAHA RENE!

Gustav
_________

???

what?

C/G · 2nd January 2007, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vertigo2006

Viva la HCL! I have a Faust mic from HCL and it is AMAZING!
I just ordered one Faust more and Affinity pre amp.
Helpful people and very good quality!

V

We need more comments on the Faust. You are probably the only person on this forum to see/hear/feel/use this mic. What could you compare it to? Is it dark or bright sounding? I need more info.

Ruudman · 2nd January 2007, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Necola

???

what?

Listen carefully, I will show zis only once (René to the right):

ruudman

flute player · 2nd January 2007, 11:16 PM

The Tube Tech sound I heard and directly recocnized because I used it in mastering my album.
That's why so no point at all

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruudman

But why do you say the sound is the 'same' as Tube Tech then?
Even TT products differ: a LCA2B sounds different than CL1B...

What's your point?

ruudman

flute player · 2nd January 2007, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vertigo2006

Viva la HCL! I have a Faust mic from HCL and it is AMAZING!
I just ordered one Faust more and Affinity pre amp.
Helpful people and very good quality!

V

And this is just the reason why everybody must have the guts to by with this real profi's

KingDaddyO · 2nd January 2007, 11:26 PM

Hmmm... would that be the same 'Handcraft Laboratories' whose work is shown in a linked image from this thread (see post #23)

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showt...57#post1044557

If not, then never mind.

HandCrafted Lab · 3rd January 2007, 02:22 AM

Well, we shall never mind...

But if we something were afraid or doubted - what for we would place such huge and detailed pics at the our web-site always?

Thus everyone could make an own correct choice - nice wiring (on own discretion with count of own understanding of correct wiring) or nice sounding. These things are very inconsistent often, in tube gear, in particular.And "clear" picturesque wiring not guaranty of clean sounding often....besides of noise floor, crosstalks,self-excitation,net hum etc. also

http://www.papa-movie.com/Di-Box_Top_2_2048.jpg

http://www.papa-movie.com/Di-Box_Top_2036.jpg

http://www.papa-movie.com/VF_top_1843.jpg

http://www.papa-movie.com/VF_ind_rear_2039.jpg

http://www.papa-movie.com/VF_ind_front_2041.jpg

not_so_new · 3rd January 2007, 03:43 AM

Okay first, in the interest of full disclosure I was the one who posted the photos on the link above and in a few other threads as well.

Also I am sorry to be skeptical of the posts above but I have been around here for a while and when folks with post counts of 15 and 21 come here to claim just how great a company is... well..... that raises my eyebrows. Along with that this is not the first thread that one of the posters above has shown up to defend HCL or to call out from the mountain tops just how wonderful the gear is.

I know this will get some flames and I apologize in advance if this is not the case... but I am still skeptical.

Okay that said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandCrafted Lab

Well, we shall never mind...

But if we something were afraid or doubted - what for we would place such huge and detailed pics at the our web-site always?

Thus everyone could make an own correct choice - nice wiring (on own discretion with count of own understanding of correct wiring) or nice sounding. These things are very inconsistent often, in tube gear, in particular.And "clear" picturesque wiring not guaranty of clean sounding often....besides of noise floor, crosstalks,self-excitation,net hum etc. also

So I disagree with some of the above, sorry man. Yes bad wiring can be a source for poor sounding audio but my concern is more about how long the unit will last. With some of the wiring on the photos I have seen I question the longevity of the unit. And I don't really think the idea of sending a unit back and forth accost the ocean to get it repaired is something I want to go through.

Quote:

http://www.papa-movie.com/Di-Box_Top_2_2048.jpg

http://www.papa-movie.com/Di-Box_Top_2036.jpg

http://www.papa-movie.com/VF_top_1843.jpg

http://www.papa-movie.com/VF_ind_rear_2039.jpg

http://www.papa-movie.com/VF_ind_front_2041.jpg

Now these are some nice looking photos. If all of your gear looked that good and / or if you could guarantee that a compressor I would order from you looked like that then I would strongly consider getting one. Nice work!

flute player · 3rd January 2007, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not_so_new

Okay first, in the interest of full disclosure I was the one who posted the photos on the link above and in a few other threads as well.

Also I am sorry to be skeptical of the posts above but I have been around here for a while and when folks with post counts of 15 and 21 come here to claim just how great a company is... well..... that raises my eyebrows. Along with that this is not the first thread that one of the posters above has shown up to defend HCL or to call out from the mountain tops just how wonderful the gear is.

I know this will get some flames and I apologize in advance if this is not the case... but I am still skeptical.

Okay that said.

So I disagree with some of the above, sorry man. Yes bad wiring can be a source for poor sounding audio but my concern is more about how long the unit will last. With some of the wiring on the photos I have seen I question the longevity of the unit. And I don't really think the idea of sending a unit back and forth accost the ocean to get it repaired is something I want to go through.

Now these are some nice looking photos. If all of your gear looked that good and / or if you could guarantee that a compressor I would order from you looked like that then I would strongly consider getting one. Nice work!

Thank for your excuse dude, you made a fool of you allready.
Never look to pictures only and underrestimate quality

not_so_new · 3rd January 2007, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flute player

Thank for your excuse dude, you made a fool of you allready.
Never look to pictures only and underrestimate quality

LOL... 16 posts and 12 of them about Hand Crafted Labs.... agenda perhaps? Nooooooo, never. Too funny "dude."

The ignore button is my friend, I push this little button right..... here.... poof you are gone.

flute player · 3rd January 2007, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not_so_new

LOL... 16 posts and 12 of them about Hand Crafted Labs.... agenda perhaps? Nooooooo, never. Too funny "dude."

The ignore button is my friend, I push this little button right..... here.... poof you are gone.

Once in you're live you meet someone that think he is a real big one.
listen "iritating dude of mine" to have a thousend or more posts don't make you any god of the GS forum.
Behind your mask must be a real lonesome, silly man.
Go away and frustrate someone else.
Talk about gear and not about the amount of posts you have send.
I consider to write the forum mediater about you and the way you react on peoples reply.
So it's up to you

off.

Ruudman · 3rd January 2007, 06:21 PM

Flute, you're overreacting

He never made an excuse, and why would he? Nothing's awfully wrong or improper regarding the posts in this thread as far as I can see ..

Smile, after all, you're happy with your gear, right?

ruudman

Jax · 3rd January 2007, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flute player

And this is just the reason why everybody must have the guts to by with this real profi's

Borat wuz here.

Wuz Borat here?

flute player · 3rd January 2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruudman

Flute, you're overreacting

He never made an excuse, and why would he? Nothing's awfully wrong or improper regarding the posts in this thread as far as I can see ..

Smile, after all, you're happy with your gear, right?

ruudman

Right rudd, yes indeed i am glad with all in my 50000 euro costing home studio.
And HCL is a proud new member of that.
so yes the last laugh is on me

mrbowes · 3rd January 2007, 07:12 PM

flute player,

I'm very interested in the Solution S2. What do you think of it? What do you typically use it on? Have you tried it on the mix buss? Can you compare it to any other compressors you own?

Thanks

flute player · 3rd January 2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbowes

flute player,

I'm very interested in the Solution S2. What do you think of it? What do you typically use it on? Have you tried it on the mix buss? Can you compare it to any other compressors you own?

Thanks

He He finally someone serious,
Well I use and gonne the solution at the end as the leveler of the final mix.
I have made a little mastering section were it is in line with a Drawmer 1961 tube EQ.
I posses also a drawmer mercenairy edition comp but with the solution you can add the warmth to your final mix.
The warmth of the sound in my opinion is about the same as Tube Tech.
But it can colour also to much like a Manley sometimes does.
The most warm sound you find in the low and mid.
So I use it for bass line also, allthough I own a boiler comp form rich farm and that sound very good for base and drums too.
Again saying it without commercial perspectives it has realy an amazing quality.
It is an easy to handle device with clear meters and knobs on it.

mrbowes · 3rd January 2007, 07:30 PM

Being styled after an LA2A, I'm surprised (in a good way) to hear that you're using it on the mix.

Thanks for your response.

C/G · 3rd January 2007, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbowes

flute player,

I'm very interested in the Solution S2. What do you think of it? What do you typically use it on? Have you tried it on the mix buss? Can you compare it to any other compressors you own?

Thanks

I have been eyeing this forever as well but have been wanting to hear more feedback. I believe Tornado Ted on the forum here has 3 of the Solution S2.

mrbowes · 3rd January 2007, 08:14 PM

Well, I just bought one so I'll let you know how it sounds when I receive it (most likely a month).

Damn, I might be turning into a slut here =)

flute player · 3rd January 2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbowes

Well, I just bought one so I'll let you know how it sounds when I receive it (most likely a month).

Damn, I might be turning into a slut here =)

Well, you certainly won't regret it.
Have you seen the affinity a2 pre amp too.
As a flute player I recorc with a ribbon mic. ( Royer R121 )
and allthough in their recomendation I saw a A-designs Mp-1/2 I decided to buy the HCL.
It has a ribbon switch as extra option so I can also use other mic's and even the synth are often going through it.

not_so_new · 3rd January 2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin Gaucher

I have been eyeing this forever as well but have been wanting to hear more feedback. I believe Tornado Ted on the forum here has 3 of the Solution S2.

Yep, I have been waiting to hear more as well.

I was pretty close to just ordering one myself but the build quality issues made me really worried. If someone could ease my issues with the build quality I would probably order one (and the only thing that would do that is to have the builder himself send me photos of the specific unit I would be receiving).

mrbowes · 3rd January 2007, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Well, you certainly won't regret it.
Have you seen the affinity a2 pre amp too.

The pre looks nice, but between my Pacifica and Sebatron VMP-4000e, my pre-amp needs are covered.

My Distressor is getting lonely and needs some other compressors to help squash signals.

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30th December 2006, 12:43 PM	#1
flute player Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lelystad Posts: 223	Hand crafted labs products Hello you all, There are times that you can take a risk and think: " why not buying something out of the Ukraine " Well, I did and bought several items from HCL with tremendous result. I bought an affinity A2 preamp, solution s2 compressor and at this moment they are building a summing mixer for me. I hear you guys and dolls think, what on earth to buy it form there. But listen very carefully, I will say this only once ( allo allo ) THIS GEAR IS F..CKING AMAZING!!! The people over there are friendly and real pro if it commes to manufactering tube gear. I have a Dramer 1968 mercendarry and thought that it had a warm sound. But comparing it to the solution from HCL it is like driving a Skoda or a Benz. The most important thing is that you are buying it for less than all the big trade marks. And the sound is the same as that from Tube tech. So do your profit because this is not commercial talk but real enthousiasm.

2nd January 2007, 11:26 PM	#12
KingDaddyO Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,309	Hmmm... would that be the same 'Handcraft Laboratories' whose work is shown in a linked image from this thread (see post #23) http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showt...57#post1044557 If not, then never mind. __________________ Cheers, Thom Now, when there's no longer surface noise and you actually have the ability to have the most extraordinary dynamic range, people aren't using it. T Bone Burnett The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them. Albert Einstein Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. I'm not black, but there's a whole lot of times I wish I could say I'm not white. Frank Zappa Last edited by KingDaddyO; 3rd January 2007 at 05:48 AM. Reason: wanted to be clear who posted this content

3rd January 2007, 02:22 AM	#13
HandCrafted Lab Gear maniac Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kiev,Ukraine Posts: 256	Well, we shall never mind... But if we something were afraid or doubted - what for we would place such huge and detailed pics at the our web-site always? Thus everyone could make an own correct choice - nice wiring (on own discretion with count of own understanding of correct wiring) or nice sounding. These things are very inconsistent often, in tube gear, in particular.And "clear" picturesque wiring not guaranty of clean sounding often....besides of noise floor, crosstalks,self-excitation,net hum etc. also http://www.papa-movie.com/Di-Box_Top_2_2048.jpg http://www.papa-movie.com/Di-Box_Top_2036.jpg http://www.papa-movie.com/VF_top_1843.jpg http://www.papa-movie.com/VF_ind_rear_2039.jpg http://www.papa-movie.com/VF_ind_front_2041.jpg __________________ We make the gear - you make the music Hand Crafted Lab.,Ukraine,Kiev http://www.myspace.com/handcraftedlabs Manufacturer Key words for search across forum - HCL, Hand Crafted Labs

3rd January 2007, 06:21 PM	#18
Ruudman Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 2,846	Flute, you're overreacting He never made an excuse, and why would he? Nothing's awfully wrong or improper regarding the posts in this thread as far as I can see .. Smile, after all, you're happy with your gear, right? ruudman __________________ Working Class Hero Visit this website of Noma Children Hospital Sokoto

30th December 2006, 01:06 PM	#2
digitalM Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 147	Hello flute player, Interesting!Have you A/B'd the HCL units side by side to the TubeTech stuff? Possible to post any samples? Cheers, Martijn.

2nd January 2007, 08:46 PM	#4
Vertigo2006 Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 51	Viva la HCL! I have a Faust mic from HCL and it is AMAZING! I just ordered one Faust more and Affinity pre amp. Helpful people and very good quality! V

3rd January 2007, 07:12 PM	#21
mrbowes Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 905	flute player, I'm very interested in the Solution S2. What do you think of it? What do you typically use it on? Have you tried it on the mix buss? Can you compare it to any other compressors you own? Thanks

3rd January 2007, 07:30 PM	#23
mrbowes Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 905	Being styled after an LA2A, I'm surprised (in a good way) to hear that you're using it on the mix. Thanks for your response.

3rd January 2007, 08:14 PM	#25
mrbowes Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 905	Well, I just bought one so I'll let you know how it sounds when I receive it (most likely a month). Damn, I might be turning into a slut here =)