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Old 9th January 2007, 01:20 AM   #61
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Mr HCL..how long takes you from taking the order to the final destination in the U.S?
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Old 9th January 2007, 01:42 AM   #62
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Amiel..... standard manufacturing time for Pre,Leveller,Di-box,mic Faust without multipatterns is ~ 3 weeks,sometimes more quickly (it depend from subcontractors in main). For Mixers and Faust f2 with multipatterns up to ~1,5 months. It`s very complex devices with a lot of testings/tunings,so...

Shipping time to USA ~ 10-12 days usually

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MR HCL... definetly I have to hear your products...do you know anybody in Miami , Florida that have your products?
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Old 9th January 2007, 11:36 AM   #64
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We did not sell our devices in Miami personally .Though it`s possible that owners of our gear can be in Miami or near. We know owner in Carolina,Durham.It`s famous producer&engineer Dan Richards,who have in studio our Preamp during year already.

http://studioforums.com/eve/forums/a...9/m/1611093061

And new user of Leveller will be soon in Charlotte, mrbowes
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Old 12th January 2007, 07:38 PM   #65
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Thanks for the update - I'm very much looking forward to receiving the Leveller. Keep us posted with any updates.

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Josh
....And for mrbowes, which ordered just now leveller. Device will performed at the 3mm thick PCB(how usually,btw not each manufacturer apply PCBs of such quality) It will BLACK PCB evidently. It`s sexy enough

As usually, big pics of these devices we shall place at the our web-site soon, I think during 2-4 weeks

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....Josh, we start preparation for device building. I will put here some pics from assembling of your device. Thus device assembling in on-line


Well, we place pics from working place during manufacture of leveller,ordered by mrbowes several days ago

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Albert that looks very cool and nice!!!
I just hope when I will place my order will be very special!
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Ok, I've decided. After months of thinking it over, I definitely want a Solution now. Albert, I'll be hitting you up for one of your levellers in the very near future.

Now if I could only hear more feedback from users on the Faust microphone.
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeet. Nice shots.

Kudos to Albert for the update. Can't wait to hear/see the s2 in action. BLUE LEDs

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Sweeeeeeeeeeeet. Nice shots.

Kudos to Albert for the update. Can't wait to hear/see the s2 in action. BLUE LEDs =)

Very impressed so far. Thanks!



I have the bleu leds.
It is a little bit dark bleu actually.
But the surprice effect is that the VU meters itself lights up in orange cooool !!!
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Well, next pics from assembling of Leveller ordered by mrbowes

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Old 19th January 2007, 04:45 AM   #71
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Hey HCL, nice looking stuff.....

So I have said this 2 or 3 times on this thread, I will ask again.

I will order a comp from you at some point IF you are willing to send me photos of the unit in the build process just like the photos above. Would you be willing to do that?

Thanks man, again nice work.
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Old 19th January 2007, 05:46 AM   #72
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personally I think that wiring looks terrible. I would never purchase any electrical item that looks like taht inside let alone a piece that claims to be pro audio.
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Old 19th January 2007, 06:43 AM   #73
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I tried to contact HCL a while ago to ask about prices, never heard back. Someone else in this thread was asking for them too, not sure if they were sent via PM or what, but any chance that info can be divulged? I just spent a bunch on new toys for my guitar to play with, but would definitely aim for a few HCL products if I can find out where I'm aiming.

Edit: I see your eBay account now, so I guess I have my answer! Likely saving up for a Solution.
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personally I think that wiring looks terrible. I would never purchase any electrical item that looks like taht inside let alone a piece that claims to be pro audio.
Jeez Clive, I don't think he's done tying it all together.

Maybe we''l see what it looks like before the top goes on.

I'm sure it will be all tidy at that time.
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this is above all expectations

Well well, what have I done.
The reactions, good and bad as well, are above my expectations when I started this thread.
I certainly have learned to respect all critics here.
It seems that just by giving a shot about HCL many people are ordering their gear.
And once again I haven't got an agenda or get a penny for making promotion. ( don't want it ever )
No, this was started out of real enthousiasm and hopefully many more will judge about the quality ( and not only about wiring ) after receiving their devices.
As Albert have said here at GS he is making a summing mixer for me which is produced in a total different way.
I have received the pictures and it is looking more then professional.
Now this product is ready I asked him to start a new thread about this summing.
Because in my opinion it is another eyeopener in the world of summing mixers.
And with all DAW products in my point of view a growing market to make the end mix better.
And than you also will notice the design is good enough to discover the market.
I wish you all many, many playing hours with the HCL devices and see you at the GS forum.

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I tried to contact HCL a while ago to ask about prices, never heard back. Someone else in this thread was asking for them too, not sure if they were sent via PM or what, but any chance that info can be divulged? I just spent a bunch on new toys for my guitar to play with, but would definitely aim for a few HCL products if I can find out where I'm aiming.

Edit: I see your eBay account now, so I guess I have my answer! Likely saving up for a Solution.
Hi, you try contact us from "motors.ebay.com?" I.e are you "pforrester"?
Sorry, but button for Reply NOT answer for you.....I can`t understand why....How Ebay memeber you are not presented(see pic). If you are not "pforrester",sorry - some e-mail loses or problem take place,evidently. Here are presented many people which recieved all answers during 24 hours. Besides of owners our gear with reply about stuff.
Ebay cover 2-3% our market,so....we manufactured and sold devices without Ebay even long time...so.....
Meanwhile,you does not surprise that we give openly - ebay items (with 22 feedbacks ), supersize pics, 3 e-mails, 6 GS tops, Harmony Central review, User List wtih web-sites/connection with real owners of our gear? You do not see here any contradiction? Otherwise about what we would speak then ? Including real owners (not from Ebay - but with orders size in several thousands)? And long time?
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Now these are some nice looking photos. If all of your gear looked that good and / or if you could guarantee that a compressor I would order from you looked like that then I would strongly consider getting one. Nice work!
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Good talking to you man. As I said, I would be interested in getting a compressor at some point if you could send me photos of the EXACT unit I would receive that showed a better and cleaner build. Are you willing to do that?
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I was pretty close to just ordering one myself but the build quality issues made me really worried. If someone could ease my issues with the build quality I would probably order one (and the only thing that would do that is to have the builder himself send me photos of the specific unit I would be receiving).
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Old 19th January 2007, 03:37 PM   #78
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Hey HCL, nice looking stuff.....

So I have said this 2 or 3 times on this thread, I will ask again.

I will order a comp from you at some point IF you are willing to send me photos of the unit in the build process just like the photos above. Would you be willing to do that?

Thanks man, again nice work.
Michael ,why not? Of course, we shall place pics from manufacturing of your device,in on-line. mrbowes not had requested about these pics,but we placed pics of manufacturing process here. It is interesting for many people,and it is interesting for us...next device pics(besides order of mrbowes) which will be placed also - passive tube summator of flute player
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personally I think that wiring looks terrible. I would never purchase any electrical item that looks like taht inside let alone a piece that claims to be pro audio.

I guess you won't be buying any Inner Tube Audio gear either. Open up any old point to point wired gear, blackface Fender amps, old Traynor Amps or any old hand wired guitar amps ect. and you will be very disappointed.
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personally I think that wiring looks terrible. I would never purchase any electrical item that looks like taht inside let alone a piece that claims to be pro audio.
Open up some Behringer gear. It's very clean inside. Doesn't make it a stellar sounding piece of equipment though. As for me, I don't give a flying donkey's ass what my gear looks like inside. It can have gremlins running around inside for all I know, but if that's what make it sound the way it does... get me more gremlins!!!
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Open up some Behringer gear. It's very clean inside. Doesn't make it a stellar sounding piece of equipment though. As for me, I don't give a flying donkey's ass what my gear looks like inside. It can have gremlins running around inside for all I know, but if that's what make it sound the way it does... get me more gremlins!!!
I would agree completely only as long as the gremlins does cause the unit to stop working in the middle of the best take the client ever did.

To me build quality has allot to do with the up time of the unit. I don't care how good something sounds when it is on, if it is broken and not passing audio it does not sound good.

HCL, thanks for the reply.
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I would agree completely only as long as the gremlins does cause the unit to stop working in the middle of the best take the client ever did.

To me build quality has allot to do with the up time of the unit. I don't care how good something sounds when it is on, if it is broken and not passing audio it does not sound good.
I've had my Affinity for almost a year now, and it's been working flawlessly. The point of my previous post was that it is impossible to predict how the unit will work or how reliable it is just by looking at how neat the insides are. The components quality or the soldering matters, of course, but how tidy it looks? Oh well, I am not an expert.
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I've had my Affinity for almost a year now, and it's been working flawlessly. The point of my previous post was that it is impossible to predict how the unit will work or how reliable it is just by looking at how neat the insides are. The components quality or the soldering matters, of course, but how tidy it looks? Oh well, I am not an expert.

Hey azzzy, it's all good. I see your points.

Let me say this, the original photos that were up on the HCL site were pretty big and you could clearly see that the soldering points were a little.... interesting.

Also how the wiring harness / cable organization is done can have a difference on how the unit behaves. Bad / messy cables can lead to hum problems or, in the case of tube gear can cause burnt wires and damage beyond just a non working unit.... like potentially lethal electric shock or rack fires.

On top of that shoddy wiring is indicative of the care taken on the manufacture of the whole unit right? I am not saying it is the deciding factor but it does show the mind set of the designer / builder.

Not saying that the HCL stuff is bad, and the latest photos are MUCH better but the other photos did raise a few concerns here.

In the end I will end up getting a comp because I am really interested..
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Sorry, but button for Reply NOT answer for you.....I can`t understand why....How Ebay memeber you are not presented(see pic). If you are not "pforrester",sorry - some e-mail loses or problem take place,evidently. Here are presented many people which recieved all answers during 24 hours. Besides of owners our gear with reply about stuff.
Ebay cover 2-3% our market,so....we manufactured and sold devices without Ebay even long time...so.....
Meanwhile,you does not surprise that we give openly - ebay items (with 22 feedbacks ), supersize pics, 3 e-mails, 6 GS tops, Harmony Central review, User List wtih web-sites/connection with real owners of our gear? You do not see here any contradiction? Otherwise about what we would speak then ? Including real owners (not from Ebay - but with orders size in several thousands)? And long time?
Nope, I'm not pforrester and I didn't contact you on eBay, but rather through the e-mail address on your website. I just looked at eBay because someone else mentioned that you had your products on there, so I figured that would be a good indicator as far as your prices

I don't understand what you mean about a contradiction, or if that's even directed to me (or whether it's good or bad), but I'll still look forward to being able to get a Solution down the road.
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I don't understand what you mean about a contradiction, or if that's even directed to me (or whether it's good or bad), but I'll still look forward to being able to get a Solution down the road.
I am pretty sure Albert misunderstood your post (damn language barrier ). I know his e-mail provider has changed their server recently and Albert hasn't been getting all of his e-mails. I know this because I've sent him some e-mails about the Faust and he hasn't gotten them, as we found out later. You could try contacting him through ebay as well, but I think it goes to the same e-mail address, so the chances of him receiving it are the same as if you were e-mailing him directly. As far as I know Albert is working on resolving this issue.
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