How do you spread 'em?

supaheef · 3rd January 2004, 10:53 AM

aloha,

am about ot start mixing a project, and would love to get some tips and insights into getting creative width in a mix. I already use small millisecond delays to push things around the stereo field, but what else do you guys do to take things really wide? and what are your favourite instruments to space out? I have a couple of trippy elements i want to use to make people feel ill!

h.

tiger vomitt · 3rd January 2004, 05:13 PM

there's a UAD1 plugin called "TremModEcho" that is great for this. the quad chorus setting doesnt really spin stuff around too much, is nicely mono-compatible and does a good job of just making things seem a lot wider. that's if you happen to have the card...

if it's ill youre going for, i think a simple auto-pan effect, just going back and forth, over and over, to be the most nauseating effect ever created. if it's only on a for a few seconds it's ok but any longer and it just makes me wanna yak

Opal Music · 4th January 2004, 10:21 AM

As for spreading certain things out in a mix...I was working on a hip hop record and the producers wanted a super-super-wide drum/bass vibe. So after going through all the usual plugins and techniques and not finding anything, i stumbled on this. Many may a already do this but its relatively new to me.

Take the kick for example... take the recorded track and copy it twice so you have 3 kick tracks. Keeping the original in the center pan position, pan the others hard left and hard right. Then take the panned tracks and offset them...so one is hitting before the original and one is hitting after the original. Mess around with the offsets as well as the panning and you'll hear it come together. Focus on trying to avoid it sounding like its heavy on one side. It will be different from drum to drum, sound to sound, etc.

The whole idea, of course, is to avoid the major phasing issues that go along with this kind of technique, but if done correctly, it sounds huge! Actually when I brought it to the mastering cat, he damn near shit himself because of how wide it was while still keeping the snap and pop intact. Give er a whirl.

M

Randall · 4th January 2004, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by tiger vomitt
there's a UAD1 plugin called "TremModEcho" that is great for this. the quad chorus setting doesnt really spin stuff around too much, is nicely mono-compatible and does a good job of just making things seem a lot wider. that's if you happen to have the card...

if it's ill youre going for, i think a simple auto-pan effect, just going back and forth, over and over, to be the most nauseating effect ever created. if it's only on a for a few seconds it's ok but any longer and it just makes me wanna yak

Hell if my stuff had any more of a yak factor, I could possibly be the first guy to ever go on trial for "murder by audio in the worst degree"

LOL

Berolzheimer · 4th January 2004, 09:37 PM

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How do you spread 'em?

Isn't that a rather personal question for this forum?

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supaheef Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In a small box full of flashing lights - Brisbane, Australia Posts: 249	How do you spread 'em? aloha, am about ot start mixing a project, and would love to get some tips and insights into getting creative width in a mix. I already use small millisecond delays to push things around the stereo field, but what else do you guys do to take things really wide? and what are your favourite instruments to space out? I have a couple of trippy elements i want to use to make people feel ill! h.

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3rd January 2004, 05:13 PM	#2
tiger vomitt Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: brooklyn, ny Posts: 64	there's a UAD1 plugin called "TremModEcho" that is great for this. the quad chorus setting doesnt really spin stuff around too much, is nicely mono-compatible and does a good job of just making things seem a lot wider. that's if you happen to have the card... if it's ill youre going for, i think a simple auto-pan effect, just going back and forth, over and over, to be the most nauseating effect ever created. if it's only on a for a few seconds it's ok but any longer and it just makes me wanna yak

4th January 2004, 10:21 AM	#3
Opal Music Gear interested Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 7	As for spreading certain things out in a mix...I was working on a hip hop record and the producers wanted a super-super-wide drum/bass vibe. So after going through all the usual plugins and techniques and not finding anything, i stumbled on this. Many may a already do this but its relatively new to me. Take the kick for example... take the recorded track and copy it twice so you have 3 kick tracks. Keeping the original in the center pan position, pan the others hard left and hard right. Then take the panned tracks and offset them...so one is hitting before the original and one is hitting after the original. Mess around with the offsets as well as the panning and you'll hear it come together. Focus on trying to avoid it sounding like its heavy on one side. It will be different from drum to drum, sound to sound, etc. The whole idea, of course, is to avoid the major phasing issues that go along with this kind of technique, but if done correctly, it sounds huge! Actually when I brought it to the mastering cat, he damn near shit himself because of how wide it was while still keeping the snap and pop intact. Give er a whirl. M