Lexicon 960L or TC System 6000?

jlotto · 2nd January 2004, 03:34 AM

Lexicon 960L or TC System 6000? Looking for opinions. Going to check both out end of next week. Was told I would be impressed by TC 6000 reverb but TC reverbs have always seemed thinner to me than the Lexicon 480L ( I attribute alot of the 480L's sound to the 18 bit "dirty" converters though). Cancelled out the 480L for new room- wanna get something that is still being updated & supported.

Brad Blackwood · 2nd January 2004, 03:48 AM

Let your ears decide for you, but I think the 6k is the box to beat. Not only do you get superb reverbs, but you also get a box that can run all kinds of algorithms, from EQ to compression or even a 5.1 surround monitor controller...

jwh1192 · 2nd January 2004, 07:30 AM

TC 6000 has cool unwrap for mono or stereo to 5.1 if you nned it ... reverbs are nice and so are mastering functions ... both are expensive boxes with all the software loaded ...

demoed Lexi and could not get it to boot up so i cannot comment on it ...

have fun listening, please post results ...

peace john

dsstudio · 2nd January 2004, 02:14 PM

If you like 480L why not like me, get both ? both for the price of 960L (Buy New TC6K and used 480L) .
Many users who sold their 480L for 960L upgrade are now hunting for 480L to buy back again, they said they missed 480 sound.
I for one did a comparison, after many sleepless night, I went for TC6000 and patiencely waiting for good deal on 480L, finally, I got 1 480L version 4 for 5K in MINT condition, well, that's only a reasonable price

Fletcher · 2nd January 2004, 02:45 PM

IMNTLBFHO, the Kurzweil KSP-8 buries the Mexicon 960L... just buries it. The plates, the chambers... just way more opulent and real to my ears... the other FX, especially the Leslie type "rotor" programs have become damn near indispensible for my work.

I haven't tried the t.c. unit... but I have played with the 960... I just preferred the sonics of the KSP-8 so much more it wasn't even funny [which is how we ended up carrying Kurzweil... I mean really... what else would a keyboard company's product be doing at a 'pro-audio' shop?]

Best of luck with your search.

C.Lambrechts · 2nd January 2004, 05:03 PM

I have both and I love both ...

I've grown into 'habbits' when using them. Whenever I need a very natural sounding hall, I don't even bother looking in the 960 anymore for example. Acoustic guitars allways get the 6000. Drums usually too, although there's some great sounding rooms in the 960 for that too.

On the other side I'll rarely go look for something to put on vocals in the TC. One of the biggest things with the lexicon is that you can put an enormous amount of effect on for example a lead vocal and still keep it right in your face.

In general I would say, if you're intop pop / rock / RnB / modern stuff .... 960 is the way to go .... for classical recordings / post production / film / mastering ... the 6000 is a no brainer.

Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to work with a KSP-8 yet ... but according to what everybody says it should be a great unit too. As for it burying the 960 I do find that an interesting approach ... maybe I should try it out some time.

ghoost · 2nd January 2004, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletcher
IMNTLBFHO, the Kurzweil KSP-8 ... The plates, the chambers... just way more opulent and real to my ears... the other FX, especially the Leslie type "rotor" programs have become damn near indispensible for my work.]

Ditto ...

those damn rotors are incredible ... you shpild at last look at the unit .. you it might save you a fistfull of $$ for more toys

PRS1JAZZ · 3rd January 2004, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletcher
IMNTLBFHO, the Kurzweil KSP-8 buries the Mexicon 960L... just buries it. The plates, the chambers... just way more opulent and real to my ears... the other FX, especially the Leslie type "rotor" programs have become damn near indispensible for my work.

I haven't tried the t.c. unit... but I have played with the 960... I just preferred the sonics of the KSP-8 so much more it wasn't even funny [which is how we ended up carrying Kurzweil... I mean really... what else would a keyboard company's product be doing at a 'pro-audio' shop?]

Best of luck with your search.

HEY FLETCH! What the f*#k is IMNTLBFHO. I understand the In my part and the honest opinion part..... but I am lost at the rest. LOL! PS... I will be calling you soon about the KSP8. I WANT ONE!

jbuntz · 3rd January 2004, 04:04 AM

I for some reaons assumed the H was for Humble

Sofa King · 3rd January 2004, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by C.Lambrechts
One of the biggest things with the lexicon is that you can put an enormous amount of effect on for example a lead vocal and still keep it right in your face.

In general I would say, if you're intop pop / rock / RnB / modern stuff .... 960 is the way to go

I agree,
Ive been using the 960 for a month or so,and i like it on vocals.
Im not a big reverb fan, and dont use it on 90% of what I do, but its perfect for these oldies shows Ive been doing.
the producer loves reverb, I mean lots of reverb. And as Chris mentioned, it doesnt get cloudy.

take care

mlocascio · 3rd January 2004, 07:38 AM

????i]Originally posted by PRS1JAZZ [/i]
HEY FLETCH! What the f*#k is IMNTLBFHO. I understand the In my part and the honest opinion part..... but I am lost at the rest. LOL! PS... I will be calling you soon about the KSP8. I WANT ONE! [/quote]

IMNTLBFHO = In my not the least bit f@#king humble opinion

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2nd January 2004, 03:34 AM	#1
jlotto Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gotham City Posts: 640	Lexicon 960L or TC System 6000? Lexicon 960L or TC System 6000? Looking for opinions. Going to check both out end of next week. Was told I would be impressed by TC 6000 reverb but TC reverbs have always seemed thinner to me than the Lexicon 480L ( I attribute alot of the 480L's sound to the 18 bit "dirty" converters though). Cancelled out the 480L for new room- wanna get something that is still being updated & supported.

2nd January 2004, 03:48 AM	#2
Brad Blackwood Craneslut Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The home of Rock-n-Roll, Memphis, TN Posts: 1,767	Let your ears decide for you, but I think the 6k is the box to beat. Not only do you get superb reverbs, but you also get a box that can run all kinds of algorithms, from EQ to compression or even a 5.1 surround monitor controller... __________________ Brad Blackwood euphonic masters "What do I buy and how do I set it?"

2nd January 2004, 02:45 PM	#5
Fletcher member no 666 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Foxboro, MA USA Posts: 5,783	IMNTLBFHO, the Kurzweil KSP-8 buries the Mexicon 960L... just buries it. The plates, the chambers... just way more opulent and real to my ears... the other FX, especially the Leslie type "rotor" programs have become damn near indispensible for my work. I haven't tried the t.c. unit... but I have played with the 960... I just preferred the sonics of the KSP-8 so much more it wasn't even funny [which is how we ended up carrying Kurzweil... I mean really... what else would a keyboard company's product be doing at a 'pro-audio' shop?] Best of luck with your search. __________________ Fletcher If you have a question please email me at Fletcher@mercenary.com instead of using the PM system... I very rarely check that system and it could take a while to get a response. I can also be found at either address below: R/E/P the Recording Engineer and Producer forums Mercenary Audio mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

2nd January 2004, 05:03 PM	#6
C.Lambrechts Lives for gear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ans (Liege) Belgium Posts: 3,214	I have both and I love both ... I've grown into 'habbits' when using them. Whenever I need a very natural sounding hall, I don't even bother looking in the 960 anymore for example. Acoustic guitars allways get the 6000. Drums usually too, although there's some great sounding rooms in the 960 for that too. On the other side I'll rarely go look for something to put on vocals in the TC. One of the biggest things with the lexicon is that you can put an enormous amount of effect on for example a lead vocal and still keep it right in your face. In general I would say, if you're intop pop / rock / RnB / modern stuff .... 960 is the way to go .... for classical recordings / post production / film / mastering ... the 6000 is a no brainer. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to work with a KSP-8 yet ... but according to what everybody says it should be a great unit too. As for it burying the 960 I do find that an interesting approach ... maybe I should try it out some time. __________________ Chris Lambrechts MiLaR Event ITB or OTB ... Who cares .... it's all about MIXING.

2nd January 2004, 07:30 AM	#3
jwh1192 Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: los angeles Posts: 629	TC 6000 has cool unwrap for mono or stereo to 5.1 if you nned it ... reverbs are nice and so are mastering functions ... both are expensive boxes with all the software loaded ... demoed Lexi and could not get it to boot up so i cannot comment on it ... have fun listening, please post results ... peace john

2nd January 2004, 02:14 PM	#4
dsstudio Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: CA, USA Posts: 286	If you like 480L why not like me, get both ? both for the price of 960L (Buy New TC6K and used 480L) . Many users who sold their 480L for 960L upgrade are now hunting for 480L to buy back again, they said they missed 480 sound. I for one did a comparison, after many sleepless night, I went for TC6000 and patiencely waiting for good deal on 480L, finally, I got 1 480L version 4 for 5K in MINT condition, well, that's only a reasonable price

3rd January 2004, 04:04 AM	#9
jbuntz Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,650	I for some reaons assumed the H was for Humble

3rd January 2004, 07:38 AM	#11
mlocascio Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 277	????i]Originally posted by PRS1JAZZ [/i] *HEY FLETCH! What the f#k is IMNTLBFHO. I understand the In my part and the honest opinion part..... but I am lost at the rest. LOL! PS... I will be calling you soon about the KSP8. I WANT ONE!** [/quote] IMNTLBFHO = In my not the least bit f@#king humble opinion

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