19th September 2012
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#1 | | Gear Head
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Thread Starter | Lookin for a Les Paul with a trem
Hello
I would like a guitar with the fat sound of the les paul, but also with a stable tremolo system (not locking). A double cutaway would be gravy, as would a neck a bit skinnier than some of the typical Paul necks. Thanks!
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19th September 2012
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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PRS!
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19th September 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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20th September 2012
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#4 | | Gear addict
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The agile series offers this.go to www.rondomusic.com | |
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20th September 2012
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#5 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Greater San Jose Metroplex
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Originally Posted by KRStudio  PRS! | yep - the DGT - david grissom trem - is probably a great place to look.
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21st September 2012
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Sounds like you're really looking for a PRS  | |
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22nd September 2012
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by KRStudio PRS! | Quote:
Originally Posted by fastlanestoner Sounds like you're really looking for a PRS | I'll disagree, and vehemently:
While I certainly haven't heard and played every model PRS that's out there, I've heard and played an awful lot, enough to know that they most certainly do not sound like a Les Paul...unless you mean in an incredibly course general sense. E.g., yeah, they sound more like a Les Paul than a Telecaster does, I'll give you that.
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22nd September 2012
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by willrocks Hello
I would like a guitar with the fat sound of the les paul, but also with a stable tremolo system (not locking). A double cutaway would be gravy, as would a neck a bit skinnier than some of the typical Paul necks. Thanks! | Warmoth. Pick your body, pickup routing, pick your neck style, finish... done deal.
I remember the Les Pauls from the late 1970s with the trems. Probably rare, I guess that they did not sell. My luthier disparaged them mightily at the time, so I guess the basic design had problems.
Another option would be to buy a Les Paul and have a luthier retrofit the trem of your choice, or contact the Gibson Custom Shop.
Why have a non-locking trem? I mean, I have one on a custom built guitar made for a purpose and I accepted the luthiers recommendation, but it seems a locking trem brings more versatility, doesn't it? You can get crazy if you need to?
As soon as you go to double cut, you change the sound. Which is why the PRS recommendations, and I agree with those who say that the PRS does not sound like a Les Paul. It doesn't.
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22nd September 2012
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#9 | | Gear maniac
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Go Lester and bigsby!
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22nd September 2012
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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23rd September 2012
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#11 | | Lives for food
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Over the years, I tend to add a Bigsby to all my Gibsons. I currently have a 1975 Custom with a gold Bigsby drilled on from back then. My 1977 Standard also has a B7 Bigsby. I also added one to my 1978 Deluxe. I don't use Bigsby's much but I'm glad I've added them for when I do need them. Plus... I just like the way they look.
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30th September 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Ther eis one on ebay right now with a Kahler.
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1st October 2012
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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The Axess or whatever they call it or the Lifeson would be my choice. Maybe a Les Paul LITE series from the 90s (some of those had trems).
I would want to try one that had been modded (I know the Khaler was factory on a lot) because I remember reading about neck angle issues with Floyds.
YMMV
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1st October 2012
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Last night I saw a new Les Paul Studio with a Floyd Rose. It sure sounded like
a LP to me. They guy didn't whamy it much, but when he did it appeared
to work fine.
I agree that a PRS won't work. I have a custom 24 and a 69 Les Paul Standard. They sound way different.
DaveT
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3rd October 2012
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#16 | | GS Community Manager
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The PRS SC58 and Stripped 58s are pretty bloody close to the Les Paul tone.
No trem though - and I think the lack thereof is part of the equation that gives them that 'nearly-there' sound.
Neither is inexpensive, as is usually the case in PRS-land.
The Customs on the other hand, as has been mentioned, not even in the same galaxy.
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26th December 2012
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#17 | | Gear maniac
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This thread is a bit old, but I did want to mention that I just put a Stetsbar on my year-old Les Paul Studio Deluxe. Fits right on top of the LP without any modifications, and does not affect the tone. Also works very well, better than the other vibrato bars I have on other guitars. The bridge actually moves, so the string only slides through the nut, and tuning remains stable.
Look here:
stetsbar.com
There are also videos on YouTube.
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28th December 2012
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#18 | | Gear maniac
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Jimi Bar Tremolo Unit for stop tail piece type guitars.
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30th December 2012
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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The Alex lifeson les paul is a great guitar but expensive. There is also the Gibson les paul shred studio. They are very poor investments IMO.
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30th December 2012
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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I played a couple of LPs with a Bowen Handle back in the 80s. One was good, the other was instantly out-of-tune. It all amounts to setup. I don't recall the differences between how the two guitars were set up. The LP bridge wasn't designed for the strings to slide across them, so either avoid aggressive use, or maybe try graphite saddles. The same goes for the nut.
Looks like the Bowen Handle is still in production. It's cheap, so it might be worth a try. Freedom Guitar: Serving Musicians and Collectors Worldwide
I don't see how to order it from the web site, but there are plenty on eBay.
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