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Old 3rd October 2012   #1
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Cult classic pedals?

I've never really used many FX pedals but I'm getting into it lately. Usually people record dry and mix in FX later and that's been what I do. Lately I want to try tracking with FX. So what are some cult pedals that you can't live without? I'm talking pedals so good that you MUST record it at the source and not just add FX later.

I'm particularly interested in pedals that ambient/post-rock bands use.
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Some of my favorites:

Digitech Space Station (the ultimate cult space rock pedal, in some respects)
Maestro Bi-Phase
Boss PN-2 Tremolo
Electro Harmonix POG and HOG
Alesis Ineko / Akira (lo fi inspiration)
Alesis Air FX (lo fi inspiration)
....and there are lots of fun delays. I like the Boss DD series and Electro Harmonix Memory Man.

Playing something with melodic skill and using effects is challenging!
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Script-era (or reissue) Phase 90/45
Roland Chorus Ensemble/Boss CE-2
A frickin' Big Muff
A good OD pedal into a good tube amp (choose your flavor)
Any good analog or tape delay
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Is the effect part of the guitarist's sound? Guitarists spend tons of money and time getting very specific sounds. I mean, there are tons of websites, forums, magazines, manufacturers, trade shows, and urban myths built around guitarists and their effects. Their sound might be of a TC Electronics SCF pedal, and you're not going to get that sound with a plugin after the fact. Also, the order of effects is of tremendous importance! That includes the amp! If you run an effect first and then into an amp and record it, it's gonna sound WAY different than recording the amp and then applying the effect later. Plus there's the whole digital versus analog thing. How many people think hardware compressors sound way better than plugins? Same with effects.

I'm not saying you can't record dry and add effects later, but I wouldn't call it what people usually do. They're two different techniques with two very different results, and there's a time and place for each, but one is a poor substitute for the other.

As far as what pedals you can't live without, that's going to depend wholly on the guitarist you're talking about. I need my Big Muff Pi, Tubescreamer, and Line 6 DL-4. I've got other pedals, but I'd never consider trying to replace them with effects placed after tracking (although I am going to replace the DL-4 with the new TC Electronics X4 when it comes out.) Other guitarists with other styles will have different tastes and thus different answers. It's a bit like asking someone what's the best color, if you could have only one.

A lot of guitarists these days are all about boutique pedals. I can certainly understand why. A big deal in the guitar world is establishing a unique sound, so that anyone can recognize your "voice". That's a large reason why just about every effect I own has been modded to some extent. Also, I'm less concerned about owning versatile pedals, and more concerned about owning pedals that precisely nail that sound in my head. I rarely touch any dials on the effect once I've dialed in my favorite sound.

Now, having gone off on that spiel, I should at least try to be more helpful and less egomaniacal. I wouldn't look to specific brands or pedal names to start off with, and instead look to categories of effects. There are tons of different types of effects, and it would save a lot of time and money if you could narrow down which particular style of effects you would consistently use. From there, you could narrow down the exact brand and model of effect. Here's a list of my most used effects:

Wah pedal
Overdrive pedal
Fuzz pedal (different from overdrive)
Chorus pedal (or a flanger. they're not identical, but cover some similar ground)
Tremolo pedal
Delay pedal

I left quite a few out like octave pedals, phaser pedals, synths, etc... But one of each of the above would be what I would call a minimum pedal board.
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For ambient/post-rock (and all sorts of other stuff) I love the

memory man
Phase 90
Small Stone
Lovetone Doppelganger
Big cheese
Boss CE-1
Morley flanger
Wah

If you want to re amp later it's a good idea to do a mockup of the sound you're looking for on plugins (like Echoboy or Crystallizer) and play with that on but record clean. It's good if you want to play with the real pedals while tracking which can be really cool. Or get the pedals set and re amp the same take twice and pan them out. Endless possibilities...
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For ambient/post-rock (and all sorts of other stuff) I love the

memory man
Phase 90
Small Stone
Lovetone Doppelganger
Big cheese
Boss CE-1
Morley flanger
Wah

If you want to re amp later it's a good idea to do a mockup of the sound you're looking for on plugins (like Echoboy or Crystallizer) and play with that on but record clean. It's good if you want to play with the real pedals while tracking which can be really cool. Or get the pedals set and re amp the same take twice and pan them out. Endless possibilities...
the Doppelganger is a monster, not just the best 'pedal' phaser, but the best studio phaser just the same, smokes the Mutron Bi-Phase and the like imho
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the Doppelganger is a monster, not just the best 'pedal' phaser, but the best studio phaser just the same, smokes the Mutron Bi-Phase and the like imho
There is nothing quite like the Doppelganger I agree. I do have a Mutron Bi-Phase and it does have old school charm although it is bloody noisy. The Lovetone stuff is analogue, beautifully engineered and unique. What's not to like? I have quite a few of theirs...
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I do have a Mutron Bi-Phase and it does have old school charm although it is bloody noisy.
You may need to have that sucker serviced. Mine is dead quiet.
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You may need to have that sucker serviced. Mine is dead quiet.
I see. I assumed it was just old and things were noisy back then.... Maybe it needs a look.
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the Klon and the old Fuzzface (Hendrix status) come to mind
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