Focal CMS 65 - Wow!!!

[garryrobson]

Enjoy!

[scoobs1971]

The CMS65s are great! Did you buy the CMS Sub as well?

[swicker]

Originally Posted by scoobs1971

The CMS65s are great! Did you buy the CMS Sub as well?

i did not, ive been using the yamaha sub.... do you think there is a huge difference that justifies buying the focal sub??

i dont really like mixing with a sub personally... and i have the focal and the yamahas and the yamaha sub runnin thru my presonus central staion, so i can pop it in and out when i want.....

thought it wouldnt really make a huge difference buying the focal... am i wrong?

[sonortony35]

I have been using my Focal CMS50s for almost a year now and I love them more and more each day! I didn't get the sub, mainly because of the size of my room, I just didn't feel that it was necessary.
They sound great, but I never feel like the sound "too" good. They sound natural and balanced, I absolutely love them!

[swicker]

i hear ya...i dont think these sound great in the sense that they are, as you said, very natural and balanced... way more clear and i true than the yamahas....

im very happy!

[scoobs1971]

Originally Posted by swicker

i did not, ive been using the yamaha sub.... do you think there is a huge difference that justifies buying the focal sub??

I don't know the Yamaha sub, but I love what the sub brings to the table. However, I keep the level of the sub very low, so it only slighly extends the sub range instead of acting like a boom box.

[clivek]

Still love mine - are these the new NS10's

I'm thinking about the trying out the PSI 17m/21m, don't know if I could part with my focal's, they always get the job done !!!

[swicker]

Would it benefit to have these and a set of ns 10s, or are they basically doing the same thing?

[Doc Mixwell]

Its always useful to have multiple sets of speakers, to switch between. Its super personal. I have a pair of CMS-50 and for me using NS10's is about the same as sticking my head inside a kick drum.

[swicker]

I hear ya, thnx for the thoughts..
I'm keeping these yamaha hs80m's as a second reference...
I think those r nice in the sense of, how will it sound on a nice stereo system.. N the focal monitors ill use for mixing n really disecting parts

[evosilica]

Originally Posted by swicker

Would it benefit to have these and a set of ns 10s, or are they basically doing the same thing?

I have both CMS65 and NS-10M (and Adam P11A) and you really can't compare the CMS65 to the NS-10M at all. And I am not one of those vintage hipsters, that believes every hype, I just got the NS-10M for very cheap and gave them a try.

There's something about the sealed cabinet + ultra low mass woofer combo that gives the NS-10 a very dry low-mid response and transient response, that i can't hear from the focals. They sound a lot more HiFi comparered.

So i would say it would be a benefit to have both, the CMS65 for broadband judgment and the NS-10M for ultradry midrange-zoom and level checking, when the bass is gone.

I should add, that i prefer the P11A over the CMS65 for the broadband task though. My stuff does not translate so well when only mixed on the CMS65, but that might be a personal thing...

PS: I wouldn't wanna mix only on NS-10M, just to make that clear. But they are great for detecting mix errors

[musikmaschine]

Originally Posted by swicker

just picked up my new set of focal cms65 monitors....

wow!!! having only used my yamaha hs80m 's before this (and a cheap set of krks).... i gotta say the tone of the focals is a WORLD of difference...

its gonna be a bit weird and im gonna have to relearn how to listen and work with these....

but immediately i think i hear much more detail in the mix, things sound alot crisper, more detailed....

kinda makes me think the yamaha's have a sort of glossiness about them, or a prettiness about them, which dont translate as that great to mix with... although they are very fun to listen to music thru... they will be a great reference monitor...

but i think these focal monitors will be a very good step towards better mixes..

had these focals' recommended to me by some of the gearslutz guys along with vintage king guys... so thanks for the help, yall!!!

I picked up a CMS50 really cheap back in October. thought i'd use it as a reference for checking mixes as my mains are hs80s and live with it for a few months to see if it was really as great a studio monitor as my 1st impression gave me, anyway it came to a point recently where i am relying on it more than the hs80s which are great but the Focal sound is that much more detailed and honest while being neutral.

Well i can't mix on one monitor (although i know some people do) so i'm getting the other one and this is after spending a good amount of time listening to a wide range of audio. I listen to Jazzanova for reference as it's diverse and i know the tracks very intimately and i still hear little details and nuances i haven't before.

My room isn't fully treated but i use Arc so it will be interesting to see how it will affect their response but either way it is a great nearfield monitor that i would happily mix on in it's natural state. The mids are fantastic, i set the hipass cutoff to 60hz so it's not working so hard but i have a little sub, it's not great but it allows for a more transparent midrange which the Focals do best imho.

I'm really looking forward to getting the other one anyway. I've read a few times that they need a good long burn in (1-200 hours) which i think is true if my ears don't deceive me so wait until they are fully broken in.