POLL : Heavy metalcore best mix

[EduardoApolonia]

Here are the details of my mix


Mixed with Pro tools
Some reverbs and limiting with System 6000
Mix was sent through a HEDD to a C2

Guitars were reamped with a Krank Revolution One for the left side and a Peavey 5150 for the right, although I wasn’t happy with the results, I had to record the guitars in a garage monitoring with heaphones , had to use a digi 002 to send the guitar signal to a Little labs PCP and record the amps. tutt

I would have liked to reamp the Bass but didn’t had the time.

Would have been great that the guitar players had recorded one more original guitar recording for each side. That would have made the guitar sound fuller.

The Bassdrum is 100% sample, the snare is the original track + 2 samples, the toms are a little of the original tracks cleaned between + the original samples that Sly recorded.

This was mixed in a dfegad bedroom

About me:

I’m from Portugal. This is my “hobby”, I have a day job that consumes a lot of time so I don’t have much time to dedicate to recording as I wish I had. I made a few recordings in my spare time.
I also have a metal band but we haven’t got anything recorded.

Eduardo Apolonia "Eddy"

[Jay Kahrs]

Just like the Energizer Bunny, it keeps on going & going & going & going...



It's been a busy few weeks in my world...mixed a couple three other things, the DAW melted...TapeOp Con was great!!! Except almost getting strandard in AZ really sucked thanks to US Air! In short...total bedlam!

Anyway, a while back...I think it was NormanNomad asked what I used to get the bass tone, like a FET compressor something & just nevergot around to answering that one.

Dude, there was a LOTTA smoke & mirrors on that there vibrating stick known as a "bass".

It started with the POD & the 421 coming into together, phase checked multiple times to see how it 'melts' into or outta the mix, then there's multiple compressors chained together...a couple three EQ's...a mult or two and a bit of somesorta stereo Flange from a TC box. All hardware...it 'plugs-into' the wall.

I can't even begin to explain it all with the hows & why's of what I picked & used because it's ALL based on what I hear so I did the next best thing.

I printed a stem of sorts.

Starts with ONLY bass & drums...drums mute a few bars into the thing & then we've got the 'whole' bass sound as it "sat" in the mix...then I started muting different elements of it. Killing a mult here & there, turning 'em back on...that sorta thing.

It's about a minute long IIRC.

Enjoy!

[pigpen]

Started watching this thread when it started....then gave up, now I'm back to see who won this thing out of pure curiosity....now I give up again....this is lasting forever, I think the Chili Peppers chose a mixer quicker than this!!!

Is this one of those "Everybody Wins, there are no losers" kind of contest?

JK....but not really....jk...well, not really....



Ok so I am kidding, but not really....

[norman_nomad]

Originally Posted by Jay Kahrs

Just like the Energizer Bunny, it keeps on going & going & going & going...



It's been a busy few weeks in my world...mixed a couple three other things, the DAW melted...TapeOp Con was great!!! Except almost getting strandard in AZ really sucked thanks to US Air! In short...total bedlam!

Anyway, a while back...I think it was NormanNomad asked what I used to get the bass tone, like a FET compressor something & just nevergot around to answering that one.

Dude, there was a LOTTA smoke & mirrors on that there vibrating stick known as a "bass".

It started with the POD & the 421 coming into together, phase checked multiple times to see how it 'melts' into or outta the mix, then there's multiple compressors chained together...a couple three EQ's...a mult or two and a bit of somesorta stereo Flange from a TC box. All hardware...it 'plugs-into' the wall.

I can't even begin to explain it all with the hows & why's of what I picked & used because it's ALL based on what I hear so I did the next best thing.

I printed a stem of sorts.

Starts with ONLY bass & drums...drums mute a few bars into the thing & then we've got the 'whole' bass sound as it "sat" in the mix...then I started muting different elements of it. Killing a mult here & there, turning 'em back on...that sorta thing.

It's about a minute long IIRC.

Enjoy!

Sweet! Thanks for sharing your process. That was really cool to listen to!

Do you find yourself using the POD a lot for bass?

[Jay Kahrs]

Originally Posted by norman_nomad

Sweet! Thanks for sharing your process. That was really cool to listen to!

Do you find yourself using the POD a lot for bass?

No problem man!

Do I use the POD a lot...well...I don't own one so I'd have to say no! LOL

I don't really have a set method or "go-to" gear for ANYTHING.

Make the gig too cookie-cutter & boring.

There are some things I find myself using again & again because they 'work' for me on vocals or snare or whatever but it's not like I'm automatically inserting 'X' compressor or 'Y' stompbox every time. I usually try a couple different 'ones' before I settle on a box too...

[keiffer]

That's interesting Jay. Here's my clip with just the Kit and Bass Gtr.

Kit & Bass Gtr

I had a Bass POD Pro several years ago but it failed and Line-6 wanted about $300 to fix it... Needless to say it's still broken. I then sold my POD Pro.

I used Izotope's Trash and I've found that it doesn't take a back seat to any similar product. It does Bass Gtr very well. The multiband distortion and cab sim are excellent.

kp-

[SLy_drums]

Hey folks !

As the metal compilation has been delayed to september, we decided to get more time to improve the mixes we enjoy the most.

The mastering session for the song is fixed on july 22nd, I guess the reason is that the engineers are in vacation until this date.

So you can post your final mixes before july 15th, and that is the final delay (no date changing this time for sure).

PS : I had the pleasure to meet trym^^ from this forum in germany, during the PRESSURE FEST. It's funny how the world is small !! I couldn't believe it when he was saying to me "Hi ! Are you Sly from Gearslutz ? It's trym^^ here..." while I was asking for a hotdog at a food stand ahah. Trym^^ I hope you enjoyed the fest, it was killer !

[keiffer]

I'd like to see a thread with nothing but entries. absolutely no dialog and with only one post per entry holding the URL.

Sly, if you think it's a good idea maybe start the thread.

kp-

[Bang]

can someone rehost the files on a fast server? I'd still love to do this but every time I try to download, its like 8 kbps speed...

[trym^^]

yo sly, couldn't believe my eyes - during as i lay dying just after i got a superman
dive straight in the face i looked around and saw a girl with a stillrise shirt.
i thought, man these guys are spreading popularity and then i thought hey whos this guy next to her, kinda recognize him you had some photos of yourself and the kit on the server so ... nice meeting you ! sunday totally RIPPED !! stood my ground at the front during cephalic carnage, darkest hour, black dahlia and the haunted.
man it was ****in hilarious, with trevor from bdh joining the crowd later ....
pressure 2007 here i come

[Mu77ley]

Here's my final mastered (kinda) version: Stillrise - Fade Out (Mix 6)

The unmastered track (if you want it) peaks at -0.9dB, so hopefully that's enough headroom for proper mastering.

Muttley

[Jay Kahrs]

Originally Posted by trym^^

yo sly, couldn't believe my eyes - during as i lay dying just after i got a superman
dive straight in the face i looked around and saw a girl with a stillrise shirt.
i thought, man these guys are spreading popularity and then i thought hey whos this guy next to her, kinda recognize him you had some photos of yourself and the kit on the server so ... nice meeting you ! sunday totally RIPPED !! stood my ground at the front during cephalic carnage, darkest hour, black dahlia and the haunted.
man it was ****in hilarious, with trevor from bdh joining the crowd later ....
pressure 2007 here i come

Sweet!

I'd assume good times were had by all...

Koolness!

[SLy_drums]

Hey Slutz !

Here are some great news about the mixing contest :

The whole band took its decision. the winner from the Stillrise mixing contest is :

EDUARDO APOLONIA

What we really enjoyed in his mix :
- Great balance and great mixing, good overall clarity.
- Compression added a huge amount of punch to the whole song.
- Guitars sound huge : not too scooped and brilliant.
- Bass sounds big and abrasive, just like I wanted from the start.
- Vocals sound nicely "in the mix" to me.
- Drums are very punchy, great triggering (and SSLish compression).
- It has that "metalcore" touch that I particularely enjoy and which really correspond to the idea I had of the song when recording it.

Bravo Eddy, very good job !

We also liked a lot the work Matt Smith and Jay "Moose" Kahrs did on the song, they are killer at mixing ! They brought their "personnal touch" to it. CJWall also had one of the best idea when mixing the vocal parts with his telephone effect and his famous "let's breathe before shouting"

The entire Stillrise band thanks all the Gearslutz community and more precisely all the guys who've participated to that Mixing Contest ! This is the only place where such a thing (with such a good attitude from everyone), is possible ! Thanks guys, for your time, your energy and the great ideas... It shows that there are so many ways to think and proceed when it comes to mixing ! It's simply amazing.

Personally, that mixing contest was a good feedback from the recording I've done and it's gonna improve my knowledge as a young engineer.

Thanks again and keep on doing the great job !

[Bij]

Congratulations Eduardo.

Great job !

[djui5]

Congrats Eduardo! Nice work

[SLy_drums]

Here's Eduardo's mix :
http://homepage.mac.com/eduardoapolo...-7.mp3-zip.zip

There will be very minor changes in it before mastering.
The mastered version will be posted here in august.

[keiffer]

Way to go Eduardo...

[Absolute]

Originally Posted by sonixx

Way to go Eduardo...

Absolutely

I think the lesson learned to the band is the rhythm guitar voicing is everything in Rock and Ed changed it enough to at least fit the genre.

[kriSh]

loudness war? i thought that was mostly the job of the mastering engineer, if wanted and to be done properly..
but that mix surely sounds proper! congratulations.

[EduardoApolonia]

Great news!!!
Thanks a lot for your compliments Sly and all you guys.
I have to say that it was great fun to do the mix.

I thought that the deadline was 15th of July.
I made that mix only using NS-10s. My Adams were at repair at the time.
I already received the Adams from repair and was going to make another mix tomorrow. Well since they already chose the prefered mix ...

I had never mixed anything recorded by someone else so it was a great experience.

Let's hear how it ends after some final touches on the mix and after mastering.

Congratulations also to all the ones who made their mixes, I heard very good ones

Here is the link to the mix with the right name:
http://homepage.mac.com/eduardoapolo...y).mp3-zip.zip

[heathen]

Well done,Eduardo!

[Mu77ley]

Congrats. That's nicely done.

This was a load of fun to do, so thanks to the band too.

Muttley

[EduardoApolonia]

Originally Posted by heathen

Well done,Eduardo!

Originally Posted by Mu77ley

Congrats. That's nicely done.

Muttley

Thanks guys

[chester]

thumbs up!

[rolandlim]

hi there , prob late for this but i thought i'd post up my mix


http://www.purevolume.com/rolandlim

Mesa dual + 5150 2

recorded and mixed in Cubase Sx 3


Regards
Roland

[SLy_drums]

Hi Roland,

I can't listen to your mix, is this normal ?

[SLy_drums]

Hey guys !

Do you remember the Stillrise mixing contest for the song Fade Out ?
You guys posted great mixes in here :kickass:

Now we are selected by ROADRUNNER RECORDS for a french rock/metal contest named ONDE DE CHOC.
If you could vote for us, it would be great ! The only thing you have to do is to send an e-mail with "STILLRISE" as subject, at the following e-mail adress :
webmaster@roadrunnerrecords.fr

Thanks to all of you !

Here is a recent console output recorded live from the song "Fade Out" (nov 3rd, opening for the german metalcore masters Neaera, in Montreux, Ned Club, SWI).
http://sylvain.raulin.free.fr/Stillr...0Montreux).mp3


Enjoy it and keep on doing great music !

[xiangyang]

Tony u are here again???
www.playerturbo.com

[EduardoApolonia]

Originally Posted by SLy_drums

Hey guys !

Do you remember the Stillrise mixing contest for the song Fade Out ?
You guys posted great mixes in here :kickass:

Now we are selected by ROADRUNNER RECORDS for a french rock/metal contest named ONDE DE CHOC.
If you could vote for us, it would be great ! The only thing you have to do is to send an e-mail with "STILLRISE" as subject, at the following e-mail adress :
webmaster@roadrunnerrecords.fr

Thanks to all of you !

Here is a recent console output recorded live from the song "Fade Out" (nov 3rd, opening for the german metalcore masters Neaera, in Montreux, Ned Club, SWI).
http://sylvain.raulin.free.fr/Stillr...0Montreux).mp3


Enjoy it and keep on doing great music !

Good luck!!