Job opportunities in Los Angeles

Resonater · 8th March 2006, 04:37 PM

Hey all,

Some of you may know that I own Resonate Music Studios in the Burbank area of Los Angeles. We cater to the music industry, and we are probably best known as being the studio where supermixer Chris Lord-Alge does his work. I have some employment opportunities available and Jules has been gracious enough for me to post this “want ad” here.

Specifically, I am in immediate need of some “runner” help. Duties include the typical runner position duties...helping in the office, cleaning the building, running errands, making copies, assisting the assistant engineers, etc. Eventually, this position will likely lead to assistant engineer work, although the timetable for that happening will be based on two things...the general schedule of the studio’s activities and the performance of the employee. I generally like to hire from within, meaning I’d rather give assistant engineer positions to employees that are already doing a great job for me as a runner.

I like self-starter employees who are always finding ways to keep themselves busy on the job rather than surfing the internet waiting for the boss to tell them specifically what to do. If you’re not ready to work hard, you need not apply. Because we work in the entertainment industries, you’ll need to have a generally upbeat personality. No prima donnas, please. Your general appearance needs to be professional, your general hygiene must be good, and I do not hire smokers. We typically start runners at or slightly higher than California minimum wage, and if you do a great job, we do our best to move the pay up to something a little more reasonable (for Los Angeles living) within a couple of months.

We prefer to hire people with some prior experience as a runner and/or assistant engineer. Knowledge of Pro Tools, general studio equipment, wiring, technical data, etc is also a plus.

To apply for this job, you must live in the Los Angeles area already. If you’re out of town, please do not apply.

I believe that we have one of the finest facilities on the west coast, so if you are interested in working hard for a great company, please PM me here.

tomwehrle · 9th March 2006, 08:06 PM

Why won't any LA people hire from outside of LA? Do they not think people would move there for the job? Cause I would...but I can't even apply cause I dont live there.

Ghost Logic · 9th March 2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joemeekfreak

Why won't any LA people hire from outside of LA? Do they not think people would move there for the job? Cause I would...but I can't even apply cause I dont live there.

You will have a hell of a hard time living in the LA area making a minimum (or slightly higher) wage--its just a guess but I'd say someone from the LA area obviously already has their living situation sorted out so they would be in a good position to assess if their finances (perhaps living at home etc.) can support the offered wages.

Resonater · 9th March 2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by joemeekfreak

Why won't any LA people hire from outside of LA? Do they not think people would move there for the job? Cause I would...but I can't even apply cause I dont live there.

Tom,

There are a couple of reasons why I prefer that people live here.

1) As an employer, I'd like to know that my employees *like* living in Los Angeles. Statistics show that a fair number of people move to California and are gone within one year, so I'm trying to appeal to those that are already settled here, enjoy it and plan on staying here.

2) If a person were to move to Los Angeles from some other city to pursue a job opportunity, and if the job were not to work out, it could be very tough for all involved. I'd feel very badly knowing that someone relocated their life on my account if it didn't work out. This adds a complexity that I'd rather not be faced with.

3) There are many people who decide their employment futures and move accordingly *without* the safety net of having a job lined up. I respect this type of "do or die" enthusiasm and dedication. I did this when I was in my 20's, and I'm glad I did. It's one thing to wait until a job opportunity comes up, but it's another to make the commitment to move to another city and then hit the streets in search of a job.

I hope that helps to explain my position on that.

superburtm · 9th March 2006, 11:59 PM

No smokers??talk about discrimination

Half of the music world smokes..or crap is it just me now

Anyhow good luck Resonater, you should try the local recording schools. Lot's o kids ready to work for little or no money.

Resonater · 10th March 2006, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WHITEAUDIOLABs

Well, once again I will state the obvious.

----This industry is full of pretentious people.

btw, is, or is it not the case that the minimum wage is determined by the federal government and not the sate.

Also, Im just curious. Are there really people out there that are so hard up to be in a studio environment that they will basically be someone's bitch, and work for free.

Because be honest. Most people who engage in free labor in the hopes of "Moving up" eventually get pissed off and realize that the odds of them actually going any where are slim and they quit. All the while the employer or studio basically manipulated the poor bastard into doing all the shitty work and for nothing.

This kind of crap just pisses me off, I have seen it happen to people.

Also I think it's a poor business decision. How the hell are you going to get anybody that is truly valuable. Because IMO, a truly skilled, talented and over all intelligent individual will never subject them selves to a situation of this manner because first and for most, they know that knowledge is valuable just as time is.

Do you ever see physicists or chemists or "Real" engineers work for free because they "Just" graduated and don't have a patent under there belt. I hope not, because they design and create the society in which we live in. It would kinda suck to find out that the guy who designed and built the elevator you are in while your 900 ft. up in the air was not payed because he had yet to show his enthusiasm for the industry.

You get what you pay for.

I'm not really sure what you're saying. Each state has its own set minimum wage. I believe that it's about $7.50/hour here in California. As I mentioned in my post, we start employees at or slightly above the California minimum wage. Then, if we end up liking the employee enough to keep him/her on, we bump that up after a few weeks, because we recognize that it's tough to live anything close to a "normal" life on California minimum wage.

The other thing that makes employment so hard is that on top of what a business pays the employee (for instance, $7.50/hour), the business has to pay taxes ON TOP OF THAT, so that business may actually be paying something close to $8.50/hour. AND, to make it tougher, in California, a business MUST carry Workman's Comp insurance for each employee, thus bumping up the total cost again. So, it gets to be a challenge on both sides.

Interestingly, if you look at studio rates over the last thirty years, you'll see that they have NOT been able to rise with the general cost of living. Studios are STILL charging what they did when I first started as an assistant in 1979! (True!). I'd love to pay all my employees DOUBLE what they currently make, but with the labels always squeezing the studio rates, it's tough. I have to be mindful of being able to pay them every two weeks no matter how sessions go, so I have to be careful with the business budget.

So, overall, it's tough to make it right for everybody from every angle. No matter how you look at the equation, you can always find things that *should* be improved.

Thanks for your post though!

daryllh · 10th March 2006, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WHITEAUDIOLABs

Well, once again I will state the obvious.

----This industry is full of pretentious people.

btw, is, or is it not the case, that the minimum wage is determined by the federal government and not the sate.

Also, Im just curious. Are there really people out there that are so hard up to be in a studio environment that they will basically be someone's bitch, and work for free.

Because be honest. Most people who engage in free labor in the hopes of "Moving up" eventually get pissed off and realize that the odds of them actually going any where are slim and they quit. All the while the employer or studio basically manipulated the poor bastard into doing all the shitty work and for nothing.

This kind of crap just pisses me off, I have seen it happen to people.

Also I think it's a poor business decision. How the hell are you going to get anybody that is truly valuable. Because IMO, a truly skilled, talented and over all intelligent individual will never subject them selves to a situation of this manner because first and for most, they know that knowledge is valuable just as time is.

Do you ever see physicists or chemists or "Real" engineers work for free because they "Just" graduated and don't have a patent under there belt. I hope not, because they design and create the society in which we live in. It would kinda suck to find out that the guy who designed and built the elevator you are in while your 900 ft. up in the air was not payed because he had yet to show his enthusiasm for the industry.

You get what you pay for.

I'm gonna chime in here because this is a post that sort of describes myself.

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Also, Im just curious. Are there really people out there that are so hard up to be in a studio environment that they will basically be someone's bitch, and work for free.

Hell yes! After coming out of Music Tech in Minneapolis, I would do ANYTHING to get an assistant job. I started interning at a studio around the corner from the school. I was there EVERYSINGLE DAY, from 7:30 AM to 5 (even later for big sessions). After interning for the day, i would go work my part time job downtown. I was the first one there, I was the first one to make coffee. I was the first one to start cleaning. I was the first one shoveling snow, etc. I lived at that place for 3 months. Everyday was so much fun. I wasn't getting a dime but I knew what I needed to do to get to where I was getting paid to engineer. I kissed so much ass it wasn't funny.

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Because be honest. Most people who engage in free labor in the hopes of "Moving up" eventually get pissed off and realize that the odds of them actually going any where are slim and they quit. All the while the employer or studio basically manipulated the poor bastard into doing all the shitty work and for nothing.

I never got pissed once. I think a lot had to do with the fact that I went to 'college' when i was older. I started music tech when I was 24. I was interning when I was 26. NOTE THIS!!! I had the luxury of having a wife who supported me and wanted me to succeed at something i loved. Needless to say, I got divorced a couple years ago...partly because of my passion for music and my not being at home. But, i DID have a 'sugar mamma' in that I didn't have to worry about making ends meet. That is a huge thing for interning.

By the way. I got the assistant job at that studio. Toddf hired me because he saw something in me. I assisted for about 5 months and then got hired as a staff engineer. I was fricken eleated! A STAFF ENGINEER! From the time I graduated, to 9 months after, I achieved my first goal! I did it by working for free...40-50 hours a week, running errands with included booze runs, and porn/cig runs at 4 in the morning.

I digress...

WHITEAUDIOLABs: I figured the system out. I knew what had to be done to get where I wanted to be. My path was mine and it isn't for everybody. I laugh at these kids that come out of schools 'PRO TOOLS CERTIFIED'. You know what my ceritification was?!? Being thrown into a real session and going by what I learned as an intern and assistant (school didn't offer that much PTs work then). The 'play time' i got as an intern was spent learning things like pro tools. That was my pay. Hell, I even took q-tips to that Amek APC 1000 a few time. Cleaned every little nook around the knobs. for that, I got to set up drums and track...learned the signal flow of the APC 1000. That was my pay as well.

I'm rambling. I just get frustrated when somebody thinks my path is stupid or not right. I was the proudest cat in town when I got those paying gigs. That meant more to me than winning the lottery. My first paycheck...was crap. I got paid so little as an assistant. Still, that check felt like a million dollars in my pocket each payday.

I hope Resenator finds somebody like me. I hope he finds a cat who will do anything to get that job. If I was out there now, I would be at his door tomorrow. Hell, I would have already gotten the job. Why? Because I know what I want. I know what I have to offer. I know I am the best runner out there. I make the best coffee. I clean the best toilet. I wrap the best cable. I make the best food runs. I vaccuum the best. Notice how I didn't even mention the engineering skills. They aren't alway the most important things.

Confidence is key in this line of work.

Resonater · 10th March 2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by daryllh

I'm gonna chime in here because this is a post that sort of describes myself.

By the way. I got the assistant job at that studio. Toddf hired me because he saw something in me. I assisted for about 5 months and then got hired as a staff engineer. I was fricken eleated! A STAFF ENGINEER! From the time I graduated, to 9 months after, I achieved my first goal! I did it by working for free...40-50 hours a week, running errands with included booze runs, and porn/cig runs at 4 in the morning.

I hope Resenator finds somebody like me. I hope he finds a cat who will do anything to get that job. If I was out there now, I would be at his door tomorrow. Hell, I would have already gotten the job. Why? Because I know what I want. I know what I have to offer. I know I am the best runner out there. I make the best coffee. I clean the best toilet. I wrap the best cable. I make the best food runs. I vaccuum the best. Notice how I didn't even mention the engineering skills. They aren't alway the most important things.

Confidence is key in this line of work.

Amen, Daryl

JVN

daryllh · 10th March 2006, 07:14 AM

almost forgot

Resonater. I'm sorry but it's your loss you have certain rules for employment. I for one have nothing to keep me grounded in Minneapolis. If you were looking for people and doing interviews, I would hop a plane tomorrow and be at your doorstep the same day.

You need to find somebody like me, and I hope you do. I like your thoughts about this job thing. I wish you luck.

Just realize that you will be settling when you do find somebody. There was a freelance engineer out in Minneapolis that would have done better working his way BACK up the ladder at your place.

Resonater · 10th March 2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by daryllh

almost forgot

Resonater. I'm sorry but it's your loss you have certain rules for employment. I for one have nothing to keep me grounded in Minneapolis. If you were looking for people and doing interviews, I would hop a plane tomorrow and be at your doorstep the same day.

You need to find somebody like me, and I hope you do. I like your thoughts about this job thing. I wish you luck.

Just realize that you will be settling when you do find somebody. There was a freelance engineer out in Minneapolis that would have done better working his way BACK up the ladder at your place.

Yeah, no doubt that I may be missing great candidates by my insistance that people live here already.

The problem is...I would just feel horrible if someone came all the way here for my job and then, for whatever reason, I had to lay them off. On a human level, I'd feel really badly about that.

Resonater · 10th March 2006, 07:31 AM

Daryl,

PS...in your case, you might have a tough time adjusting to the fact that there won't be any snow to shovel here. You might not like that part of it!

daryllh · 10th March 2006, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by superburtm

No smokers??talk about discrimination

Half of the music world smokes..or crap is it just me now

its not just you. how else would i get through a 20 hour session without food? coffee and smokes my friend.

With that said, I would give up the cigs for another shot at being a part of a commercial studio.

kclisby · 10th March 2006, 07:36 AM

What type of hours would you be expecting from this intern "runner" daily, weekly,.... As you are aware that any one living in cali has to have some other job as well to cover the essential bills such as the high rent every month.... I would just like to know......

Kerry

daryllh · 10th March 2006, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Resonater

Yeah, no doubt that I may be missing great candidates by my insistance that people live here already.

The problem is...I would just feel horrible if someone came all the way here for my job and then, for whatever reason, I had to lay them off. On a human level, I'd feel really badly about that.

I understand. I went through a studio closing with Toddf. The studio he hired me at sold its space to a school. Since then (Dec, 2003)I have been freelance but miss the commercial days. I really miss that studio.

Still, I moved from Green Bay to Minneapolis to 'follow my dream'. Lived apart from my wife for 8 months while I was in school. Perhaps it's a midwestern thing.

Kudos to you for having a compassion for real issues. While it doesn't leave you open to more candidates, there is something to be said about sticking to your guns. I admire that in this cut-throat business we are in.

I may miss the snow. Maybe I wouldn't be the right guy for your job. haha. That would be on my resume. "Request fresh snow shipments each winter month so I can shovel".

Resonater · 10th March 2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by daryllh

its not just you. how else would i get through a 20 hour session without food? coffee and smokes my friend.

With that said, I would give up the cigs for another shot at being a part of a commercial studio.

Daryl and Superburt,

i think you should both consider giving up the cigs, because that's a dead end road that leads nowhere good. I'd bet almost my last dollar that the day will come for each of you when you find that you can NOT give it up even though you want to. The nic has too strong a pull on your body...and at some point, I think you'll each look back and wish that you would have considered stopping when youth was on your side. It won't get easier as time goes on. OK...I'll step down off the milk crate now.

kclisby · 10th March 2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Resonater

Daryl and Superburt,

i think you should both consider giving up the cigs, because that's a dead end road that leads nowhere good. I'd bet almost my last dollar that the day will come for each of you when you find that you can NOT give it up even though you want to. The nic has too strong a pull on your body...and at some point, I think you'll each look back and wish that you would have considered stopping when youth was on your side. It won't get easier as time goes on. OK...I'll step down off the milk crate now.

Yes Fellow.... Resonater is right... And he hasn't even talked about lung cancer, emphysema, or chronic bronchits, or any other COPD's....

Dr. Clisby

Resonater · 10th March 2006, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kclisby

What type of hours would you be expecting from this intern "runner" daily, weekly,.... As you are aware that any one living in cali has to have some other job as well to cover the essential bills such as the high rent every month.... I would just like to know......

Kerry

Kerry,

Making sure that my employees get enough hours to make rent is always a concern of mine. Even during the slow times, I try to be mindful of that, because after all, these guys gotta have a roof over their heads.

With that said, it's tough to predict the hours, because there are several factors at play, most of which are beyond our control...things like how many sessions are happening, are all my current employees staying on, will some of them be able to bump up into assisting when the sessions book in, etc. We're in the process of getting a second studio open, and I'm looking for someone now in anticipation that sessions might require that one of my guys start assisting on a somewhat regular basis. Additionally, we just took on a new guy and we're waiting to see how well that works out. So, overall, it's tough to predict the hours, but I would probably say that it might be 20-30 hours/week to start, with the hopes that it would end up being 40-50 hours/week within a few months. Hope that helps.

daryllh · 10th March 2006, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Resonater

Daryl and Superburt,

i think you should both consider giving up the cigs, because that's a dead end road that leads nowhere good. I'd bet almost my last dollar that the day will come for each of you when you find that you can NOT give it up even though you want to. The nic has too strong a pull on your body...and at some point, I think you'll each look back and wish that you would have considered stopping when youth was on your side. It won't get easier as time goes on. OK...I'll step down off the milk crate now.

I hear you cluckin!

My dad spent several stints in rehab for various addictions. Compared to heroin, he said that nicotine was the worst thing you can be addicted to. He's done it all and it scares me to know that. That is the one thing he hasn't been able to quit. I admire him for his sobriety but am dismayed at his inability to stop smoking.

My mom, after not smoking for about 15+years says that she still finds herself craving smokes.

Funny thing...I used to be able to go 6-10 days without smoking. Wife didn't smoke, and when we went back home for holidays, I wouldn't touch them. I used to smoke 1/2 a pack or less a day. Engineering got me to 1 pack a day. I haven't gotten over that mark and am thankful for that. Still, I can envision myself being able to get through a session of length without smoking. It's a dietary suppliment for me. It's bad, I know. When I go work at Toddf's studio, I don't smoke anywhere in the building. Other studios around town allow it in the performance area. If the client doesn't smoke, I won't.

It's bad. The stuff is bad. The mental addiction is the worst. I quit several times and have dealt with the physical addiction. Headaches and upset stomache. TheWORST...the absolute WORST is the mental additction.

Thanks for not scoffing and understanding the plight of the smoker. I will be the first to tell you I'm worse off for doing it.

kclisby · 10th March 2006, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Resonater

Kerry,

Making sure that my employees get enough hours to make rent is always a concern of mine. Even during the slow times, I try to be mindful of that, because after all, these guys gotta have a roof over their heads.

With that said, it's tough to predict the hours, because there are several factors at play, most of which are beyond our control...things like how many sessions are happening, are all my current employees staying on, will some of them be able to bump up into assisting when the sessions book in, etc. We're in the process of getting a second studio open, and I'm looking for someone now in anticipation that sessions might require that one of my guys start assisting on a somewhat regular basis. Additionally, we just took on a new guy and we're waiting to see how well that works out. So, overall, it's tough to predict the hours, but I would probably say that it might be 20-30 hours/week to start, with the hopes that it would end up being 40-50 hours/week within a few months. Hope that helps.

Thanks for the reply.....

Resonater · 10th March 2006, 08:09 AM

PS on the smoking...

I lost an aunt to smoking when she was 40, meaning...her children lost their mother and her husband lost his wife. Within ten years, one of those children lost his life to cancer at the age of 22, so...the remaining brother lost a brother and my uncle lost his son. A family of four was reduced to a family of two.

When you're young, it's tough to see how quickly life can turn, not only affecting your life, but so many lives around you. Just like Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life", we never really know what we have until something comes along to show us how much we already have to be thankful for. I really don't get the smoking thing, because it can't really lead to positive places.

OK..sorry for the soapbox speech again...

kclisby · 10th March 2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Resonater

PS on the smoking...

I lost an aunt to smoking when she was 40, meaning...her children lost their mother and her husband lost his wife. Within ten years, one of those children lost his life to cancer at the age of 22, so...the remaining brother lost a brother and my uncle lost his son. A family of four was reduced to a family of two.

When you're young, it's tough to see how quickly life can turn, not only affecting your life, but so many lives around you. Just like Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life", we never really know what we have until something comes along to show us how much we already have to be thankful for. I really don't get the smoking thing, because it can't really lead to positive places.

OK..sorry for the soapbox speech again...

Resonater...

We are on the same soapbox.... It saddens me when an 40 year old woman walks into my office who's experienced a significant amout of weight loss complains of vague chest pains.... Take a history, find out she's never smoked a day in her life, x-ray her and find a big tumor sitting in the middle of her lung fields because a selfish husband couldn't kick the habit.... One of the hardest things to tell someone.... So i'm definitely with you on that one..... Alot of times our habits effect the people we love the most..... and could ultimately lead to a premature death to no fault of their own....

Dr. Clisby

superburtm · 10th March 2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Resonater

Daryl and Superburt,

i think you should both consider giving up the cigs, because that's a dead end road that leads nowhere good. I'd bet almost my last dollar that the day will come for each of you when you find that you can NOT give it up even though you want to. The nic has too strong a pull on your body...and at some point, I think you'll each look back and wish that you would have considered stopping when youth was on your side. It won't get easier as time goes on. OK...I'll step down off the milk crate now.

Resonater,
I totally hear you believe you me...I'm always trying to quit. I'm totally clean in my life asides from smoking..no drinking, no drugs and so on... but cigs got me by the boo boo.

BTW my studio is also in Burbank...if you ever need some help gimmie a shout..I been doing this for over 11yrs now..I got a modest facility that stays booked solid.

Bat Head Sound · 10th March 2006, 04:20 PM

Yes, smoking is bad. It pollutes the air and a recent poll shows that air is good.

Cigarettes killed my father and raped my mother.

I say we fine the tobacco companies infinity billion dollars....

(sorry, just had to do it)

rcm · 11th March 2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WHITEAUDIOLABs

Also, Im just curious. Are there really people out there that are so hard up to be in a studio environment that they will basically be someone's bitch, and work for free.

Absolutely! I got my start that way and before too long I was making my living recording music. But I still love it and if I did not have to pay bills and such I would do it for free. As a matter of fact when I have down time I have will some times work with broke artists that I dig because I am so hard up to be making records.

Even after making hundreds of records, I still think getting to be in the studio making records is one of the greatest gifts in the world.

tomwehrle · 11th March 2006, 11:14 AM

so what are my chances of getting a job before moving out there? what would it take to hire someone from out of state?

superburtm · 11th March 2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Resonater

PS on the smoking...

I lost an aunt to smoking when she was 40, meaning...her children lost their mother and her husband lost his wife. Within ten years, one of those children lost his life to cancer at the age of 22, so...the remaining brother lost a brother and my uncle lost his son. A family of four was reduced to a family of two.

When you're young, it's tough to see how quickly life can turn, not only affecting your life, but so many lives around you. Just like Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life", we never really know what we have until something comes along to show us how much we already have to be thankful for. I really don't get the smoking thing, because it can't really lead to positive places.

OK..sorry for the soapbox speech again...

Sorry to hear about you loss

daryllh · 11th March 2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by joemeekfreak

so what are my chances of getting a job before moving out there? what would it take to hire someone from out of state?

That was funny as hell.

(I hope it wasn't a serious question...after all that has been posted)

RoundBadge · 11th March 2006, 11:17 PM

Cool Res..
... sounds like a golden opportunity for a young hungry aspiring audio guy...
I remember working for free as an intern [6 -8 months] on and off 10- 14 hour days, and holding a day job at a supermarket in between to make ends meet.Drove a 400 dollar car ,had a 400 dollar a month apartment..and was learning and loving it.
there were absolutely no guarantees on jobs either.. I eventually made it to 25 bucks a day,then 50 and on up. and up..
i know it's even harder these days..but thats the deal,init!?..
I paid my dues,
big time..
worked my ass off!..gratefully..wouldn't trade the experience for anything!
based on your posts here,you sound like a very fair minded, thoughtful business owner.
I'll ask around town to see if anyones looking..
good luck with your search

If I were starting out agian.. I'd jump,no... Leap at an opportunity like this!

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8th March 2006, 04:37 PM	#1
Resonater Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 569	Job opportunities in Los Angeles Hey all, Some of you may know that I own Resonate Music Studios in the Burbank area of Los Angeles. We cater to the music industry, and we are probably best known as being the studio where supermixer Chris Lord-Alge does his work. I have some employment opportunities available and Jules has been gracious enough for me to post this “want ad” here. Specifically, I am in immediate need of some “runner” help. Duties include the typical runner position duties...helping in the office, cleaning the building, running errands, making copies, assisting the assistant engineers, etc. Eventually, this position will likely lead to assistant engineer work, although the timetable for that happening will be based on two things...the general schedule of the studio’s activities and the performance of the employee. I generally like to hire from within, meaning I’d rather give assistant engineer positions to employees that are already doing a great job for me as a runner. I like self-starter employees who are always finding ways to keep themselves busy on the job rather than surfing the internet waiting for the boss to tell them specifically what to do. If you’re not ready to work hard, you need not apply. Because we work in the entertainment industries, you’ll need to have a generally upbeat personality. No prima donnas, please. Your general appearance needs to be professional, your general hygiene must be good, and I do not hire smokers. We typically start runners at or slightly higher than California minimum wage, and if you do a great job, we do our best to move the pay up to something a little more reasonable (for Los Angeles living) within a couple of months. We prefer to hire people with some prior experience as a runner and/or assistant engineer. Knowledge of Pro Tools, general studio equipment, wiring, technical data, etc is also a plus. To apply for this job, you must live in the Los Angeles area already. If you’re out of town, please do not apply. I believe that we have one of the finest facilities on the west coast, so if you are interested in working hard for a great company, please PM me here. __________________ The Resonater

9th March 2006, 08:06 PM	#2
tomwehrle Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 398	Why won't any LA people hire from outside of LA? Do they not think people would move there for the job? Cause I would...but I can't even apply cause I dont live there. __________________ Tom Wehrle www.tomwehrle.com www.myspace.com/tomwehrle

10th March 2006, 07:31 AM	#11
Resonater Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 569	Daryl, PS...in your case, you might have a tough time adjusting to the fact that there won't be any snow to shovel here. You might not like that part of it! __________________ The Resonater

10th March 2006, 07:36 AM	#13
kclisby Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 151	Hours What type of hours would you be expecting from this intern "runner" daily, weekly,.... As you are aware that any one living in cali has to have some other job as well to cover the essential bills such as the high rent every month.... I would just like to know...... Kerry

9th March 2006, 11:59 PM	#5
superburtm Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,307	No smokers??talk about discrimination Half of the music world smokes..or crap is it just me now Anyhow good luck Resonater, you should try the local recording schools. Lot's o kids ready to work for little or no money.

10th March 2006, 07:14 AM	#9
daryllh Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 333	almost forgot Resonater. I'm sorry but it's your loss you have certain rules for employment. I for one have nothing to keep me grounded in Minneapolis. If you were looking for people and doing interviews, I would hop a plane tomorrow and be at your doorstep the same day. You need to find somebody like me, and I hope you do. I like your thoughts about this job thing. I wish you luck. Just realize that you will be settling when you do find somebody. There was a freelance engineer out in Minneapolis that would have done better working his way BACK up the ladder at your place.

10th March 2006, 08:09 AM	#20
Resonater Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 569	PS on the smoking... I lost an aunt to smoking when she was 40, meaning...her children lost their mother and her husband lost his wife. Within ten years, one of those children lost his life to cancer at the age of 22, so...the remaining brother lost a brother and my uncle lost his son. A family of four was reduced to a family of two. When you're young, it's tough to see how quickly life can turn, not only affecting your life, but so many lives around you. Just like Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life", we never really know what we have until something comes along to show us how much we already have to be thankful for. I really don't get the smoking thing, because it can't really lead to positive places. OK..sorry for the soapbox speech again... __________________ The Resonater

10th March 2006, 04:20 PM	#23
Bat Head Sound Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 572	Yes, smoking is bad. It pollutes the air and a recent poll shows that air is good. Cigarettes killed my father and raped my mother. I say we fine the tobacco companies infinity billion dollars.... (sorry, just had to do it)

11th March 2006, 11:14 AM	#25
tomwehrle Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 398	so what are my chances of getting a job before moving out there? what would it take to hire someone from out of state? __________________ Tom Wehrle www.tomwehrle.com www.myspace.com/tomwehrle

11th March 2006, 11:17 PM	#28
RoundBadge Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca. Posts: 5,543	Cool Res.. ... sounds like a golden opportunity for a young hungry aspiring audio guy... I remember working for free as an intern [6 -8 months] on and off 10- 14 hour days, and holding a day job at a supermarket in between to make ends meet.Drove a 400 dollar car ,had a 400 dollar a month apartment..and was learning and loving it. there were absolutely no guarantees on jobs either.. I eventually made it to 25 bucks a day,then 50 and on up. and up.. i know it's even harder these days..but thats the deal,init!?.. I paid my dues, big time.. worked my ass off!..gratefully..wouldn't trade the experience for anything! based on your posts here,you sound like a very fair minded, thoughtful business owner. I'll ask around town to see if anyones looking.. good luck with your search If I were starting out agian.. I'd jump,no... Leap at an opportunity like this!