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Old 10th March 2010   #1
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Spend a couple minutes with this.

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Amazing! That almost doesn't even seem real. Those little hands stretching all over the neck with ease is crazy. Just incredible.
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yeah,not bad


i can't play that after 20 years!


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I've been playing guitar for fifteen years. Always just as a tool for songwriting. But after watching that, it's just amazing. The level of aptitude and playing is amazing at that age. I hope they let her go out and play with other kids and "waste time" having fun. She almost seems too good for her age.
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She's too young, I dont like that, I felt kinda bad for that lil gurl, hope she didnt suffer too much from the training, hope this is not dangerous for her. Back to Paco.
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Maybe I need the State to tell me to practice 10 hours a day...

Incredible, but I agree about hoping she gets to be a kid.
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This was more me at that age:

YouTube - Hey Jude - Cute Korean Kid
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She's too young, I dont like that, I felt kinda bad for that lil gurl, hope she didnt suffer too much from the training, hope this is not dangerous for her. Back to Paco.
She'll probably despise music when she gets older!!!!!
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This was more me at that age:

YouTube - Hey Jude - Cute Korean Kid
too funny!!! "wrirr ret her into your heart"
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She's too young, I dont like that, I felt kinda bad for that lil gurl, hope she didnt suffer too much from the training, hope this is not dangerous for her.
I have to admit that I share these sentiments.

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found you again!!

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Sorry, that's sick. The level achieved is absolutely incredible. She must have been practicing 8 hours a day, and she doesn't even seem to be 10. What kid could do that on willingly ? I can't help thinking she's been taught guitar with a cattle prod. Please, somebody tell me she can still laugh playing hide-and-seek.
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There's no way that little girl doesn't hate her life.

Sad. Yet awesome. Such a dichotomy....
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Tragic.
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OMG. First of all I think you guys are tragic and pathetic. As if practicing is torture. LOL. Nothing about practice is torture! And you know there are some people who are born, for whatever reason, with the ability to play.

Second - fingers, if taught properly and at an early age, just develop musical intelligence far easier than we do, say past the age of 10. Your fingers grow with your body, INTO the instrument and will basically NEVER lose their ability.

And how come you're assuming she does not WANT to play like this? She now has the gift of music for the rest of her life. She far exceeded what most people writing on this forum will ever do, as far as ability goes. She's written her own ticket, and depending on what she does with it, or what she CAN do with it, the world is her oyster.

Then again people see that she's a "little North Korean" girl and think it's tragic. LOL. I think the attitude is pathetic. I see a lot of envy.
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You must be insane. No child that age has had the drive to be that sophisticated of a player. You really think she did that all by herself? Practicing an instrument to that degree for a <10 year old child IS torture.

It is sad. That kid should be outside playing with other kids. I highly doubt she understands any music theory or anything... guaranteed she has been forcibly trained by memorization and repetition. Children are not there to entertain adults with parlor tricks and feats of "genius". Guess who's gonna resent their parents in 15 years?
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OMG, sorry but I've known some very, very, extremely precocious young talented artists. Sometimes it takes prodding, some times it doesn't. Then again it all depends on what it's worth. Mozart was forced to practice, but he didn't mind. He was also driven. You have to force every child to do somethings; brush their teeth, chores, homework, practice. The problem today is society is way too permissive and is afraid of telling children what to do. That's one reason we're so f**ked up right now.

I'd rather force a child to play the violin, guitar, piano than have him or her sit drooling in front of an xBox.

And no, I'm not at all kidding. Music is being lost in THIS society because no one is making children learn an instrument. And it's not torture to be forced to play any more than it's torture to force a kid to wash up.
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When I was young - not this young - maybe 13, 14, 15, I used to practice from 3-8 hours a day. I was not forced to. But I NEVER considered it anything but a pleasure.

I dare say most people here, and most people period, have a different relationship with practicing because of THEMSELVES. There's nothing horrid about the subject, unless you're beaten or are not allowed to do anything else.

It takes, for many of us, concentration and dedication - two things that can pay dividends for the rest of ones life, regardless whether you continue with music or not. If you cannot sit in front of your instrument for long periods of time and dedicate yourself to accomplishing whatever it is you're trying to accomplish, the fault is yours. That's the strength of music and the way it USED to be taught, -- the way this girl has learned it. If you have the idea that practicing an instrument is torture, that idea comes from problems with your OWN practice.

I love practicing and always have. I define my day by how many hours I can put in. Practicing has kept me SANE and not the reverse. My childhood was strengthen by my being able to play the guitar, and work hard at the guitar, as opposed to some other kids/friends who ended up getting into a lot of trouble because they hung out too much with other kids who got into trouble.

I'm done with todays practicing. I put in 3 hours and have consistently done three hours for the last two weeks. I upped it from two. And I feel great - like I accomplished something. I don't feel tortured at all. LOL.
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Man she looks like 5 or 6 she's 8 at max... I suspect that kind of training to be dangerous for her health... That shit is close to child labor. 15 years old okay even 12, but 5? nah, definetly not nice.
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OMG.
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OMG. First of all I think you guys are tragic and pathetic.
This was a charming opening.

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What's the time? It's time to get Il.

Amazing regardless of what may be behind some of this, she is talented and that you cannot force or manufacture.

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LOL. Well sorry, but I really think it's true. Music is something that you DO! I see few people praising her skill. If her parents made her sit at home and do her homework instead of play, I don't know anyone that would call that torture. "You must read for 4 hours a day, then do math for an hour before you can play!" What if the child just LOVED TO READ! What if the child JUST LOVED TO PLAY GUITAR!! It happens you know!
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I'd be curious about paediatricians opinions. Reading cant cause physical damages, I highly suspect that playing guitar like that at 5 is far from a safe practice.
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Hand problems, tendinitis, etc happen later, and when your hand has settled in it's development. For such a young child the tendons and muscles are developing. Mozart! Beethoven. Brahms. The modern era Tatum, Oscar Peterson, Jarrett, Pearlman, Casals --- all started as very, very young children and NONE had hand or psychological problems because they started young!

Wow. If you suddenly decided to practice 6 hours a day when you were used to doing a half hour, without gradually increasing your routine, you'd hurt yourself -- IF you were an adult.
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Great playing.
I am with Henry on this 100%.
For you modern uninformed rest: Jascha Heifetz was touring Europe at the age of 8, with virtuoso repertoir, much more demanding than the piece girl is playing, Yehudi Menuhin played concerts at a similar age, both of them and many other prodigies enjoyed long careers up to their 80s.
If you lads and lasses feel that practicing is such a hard graft, find another job!
Oh, no wait, you keep studio technicians (engineers) in business with autotune and endless edits.... so carry on complaining and running down people who actually love playing music!
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I know this is primarily an engineers forum, but I hear so few people talking about actually MAKING music and the process of music. The great jazz musician composer Charles Mingus told me, and he was a man of few words, "Musicians practice." It took me many years to understand the simple wisdom in those words. Musicians practice. THAT'S what musicians DO.

This girl has had to practice, and I'd wager a bet she loves to PRACTICE! You don't hurt yourself, most of the time, from practicing. You hurt yourself from lack of it. And I've learned through the years the naysayers, the detractors are by and large those who can't do; who haven't grasped the concept, and those who are jealous.
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dudes that talk about jealousy is ret... not very clever. Honestly if this is safe for her I'd say right, okay...I have nothing against music practice,() my home boy is a pretty good guitarist (he learned Paco de Lucia by ear but he is an adult and it was on his own) and I like performance... I always been told that practicing too much sports as a child was a bad thing and that looks like it but I'm not a paediatrician. Are you?
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I have dealt with jealousy from both sides of the wall. It exists, and pretending that it doesn't because it is socially unacceptable to talk about it is re . . .

Safe? I don't know where this idea comes from about it not being SAFE. There are thousands of examples of very, very, very young children playing music, and some of it hard music, on all kinds of instruments, and as was said earlier, more difficult that this.

And who in the hell needs to talk to a pediatrician? As if they have all the answers anyway. Hell, one's bound to tell you to never go outside without being bundled up in a mattress like coat.

There's this idea, that I don't hold, that there are experts and I am not one of them, so I have to defer my every move to the said "experts." Well an "expert" might have insisted that there be no Mozart, Beehthoven, Prokofiev, Heifiz, Paco. Hell, Bireli Lagrene was playing concerts doing ridiculously difficult and fast Django music on thick acoustic strings all over Europe about the same age as this girl, maybe younger, and he's STILL playing his ass off. A pediatrician today would probably prescribe ritalin or prosaic for the kid to get rid of this "obsessive/compulsive disorder", for having to play the guitar all the time! That's ludicrous. Pediatricians know nothing about the arts, as a rule.

Some people are bound for greatness and I think some children know it. Greatness often dictates hard work beginning at a very young age. Olympic gymnasts, start YOUNG and go away to camps for extended periods. I don't know anyone who would call that torture. Not easy, true. I don't know that it's bad for athletes to start young. I don't know any other way, if you're going to be in the NBA, or NFL, or the Olympics. If you want to be great, you gotta start young and get your body growing into it.

And most kids know this innately. I panicked about the age of 8, until I found my instrument at 13, because I knew I had blown it. My mom didn't care. She didn't want me to be a musician. But I knew I had to have started at around 6. I don't know HOW I knew this, but I did.

So I'd stop worrying about the little girl. I think she's fine and I don't think her life is tragic. Quite the contrary. Look at all the attention and love she's getting! She's doing something far more valuable than you can imagine and she knows it, I'm sure.
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