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| Gear maniac | Quote:
I actually can respect the brutality sometimes because if what you have is really hot then you can sustain this and though everyone will not agree or like what you have, the goal should be to sustain the majority vote. I am confident in what we are doing and don't move forward with a blind eye and deaf ear. For example, when we released LAMbCase, musicians did not like the fact that it tagged the MP3 files with the buyer's email address.. even though it was not DRM, but since the DRM issue was so hot at the time, we immediately took this feature out and have not revisited it. In concept it was something we thought content owners wanted but apparently not. | |
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| | #32 | |
| Gear maniac | Quote:
I have actually spliced an Ampex 499 tape with a razor. In your signature you link to 2 links to make other GS aware of what your doing. You offer music services too no? If you are not interested in what I offer or even this thread for this matter, why not visit the tens of thousands of other threads here? Or better yet, show me any alternative solution for a musician looking to sell a 700MB package. | |
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| | #33 | |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Western North Carolina
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The rest of your post is irrelevant.
__________________ "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Tolstoy Scott Benson www.syborgstudios.com | |
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| | #34 | |
| Gear maniac | Quote:
Thanks for the backing in this thread, I am really excited to release this thing and have done my best to not comment too much when I read threads where users are asking advice for "an alternative to XYZ service" or "How can I sell WAV files". If someone needs help programming an MPC3000 or need mastering tips with Ozone 3, sure I can provide that help, it just so happened I decided to create a system. I thought there would be a little bit more acceptance that someone is attempting to meet what content owners are asking for, but some people will always rather sell vinyl and cassettes in 2008 and see no value in something new not dictated down from companies with no vision, go figure. | |
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| Gear maniac | Quote:
Thanks. | |
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| Gear maniac | more good news I guess I could have made 2 separate "Good News" threads but I will line this in to this one: I got included in a PayPal press release :) https://www.paypal-media.com/releases.cfm "PayPal Introduces New Tools to Help Developers Build Their Businesses" Jun 16, 2008 Take THAT, generic widget makers! lol. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,246
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I hope it works!!! I'd love to actually be making some money on future albums.
__________________ FOR SALE: 32ch DAKING 1112 console Check the classifieds!!! www.MySpace.com/NebulostProductions | |
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| | #38 | |
| Gear maniac | Quote:
(please excuse the flashback rant here but I feel compelled) I remember in '95 - '96 I received a rare opportunity to produce, record, and mix a song that had a shoe in for a popular DJ on one the biggest radio stations in NYC at the time. The problem was that our group had no money to go to an actual studio.. So, here I am with my trusty ASR-10 and a very cheap DAT machine. I invested in a CAD E-200 and a $40 phantom power attachment and used a pillow case for a pop filter (i had the artists hold it in front of them at the mic) because for some reason I didnt have an extra $40 for a mic stand pop filter and refused to make one out of a stocking and hanger (so young and not thinking lol). For 4 days straight, I recorded the artists vocals directly to DAT using the pass through ASR-10 compressor. I used the pre-verse bleed of the drum track of the headphones recorded on DAT to later sample each good verse and adlibs into keys and synced them with the sequences. I used the song mode to arrange all parts of the song, then saved everything on 16 floppy disks. Imagine the horror of the recall lol. Determined to succeed at any cost, here I am a 21 year old "kid" trying my best to mix a song entirely on a ASR-10 with no mixing experience or knowledge at that time. I stayed up 4 days straight working on that. I remember the first time I heard this record played between 2 very big budget singles at the time, i mean here we are playing on the radio with the big boys with no record deal! I remember how hard it was to get 1 CD recorded of this song to take to labels for meetings, how expensive it was to press vinyl of this song to distribute to DJs. I say all this to say this: I look at everything available today and it amazes me every time how EASY it is to expose a project to the public. How many road blocks that are now not there. How I wish we had a MySpace back in '96 and how amazing it would have been to be able to sell our radio song direct and receive payments without the need of dealing with lawyers and shady record labels (slash publishers). Many of the experiences I have been through has been the motives behind many of the musician friendly features of RZ. It is literally the thing I wish I had back when I was left hurting because someone was able to make a decision to limit our progress and exposure. I have always had sort of an vendetta to one day make sure that anyone that wants to express themselves and sell their music, that when I was able, I would create something that no one member of "the powers that be" can top or stop. I am confident that we have achieved this goal. Thanks again sorry for the flashback rant :) | |
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| Lives for gear | I think your service looks pretty genius, and I might actually have a use for it soon. Well, within many months, which will be after your launch. Pretty cool stuff, even if i dont use it. Way to look around the bend and develop ideas for what lies ahead. |
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| | #40 | |
| Gear maniac | Quote:
Actually I am trying to keep a close contact with users and try to stack on features and requests as needed. Since I am in direct control of development, we can add new things almost daily. I give you an example of what we are looking at today: I had a meeting with a very big electronics giant yesterday, as I am trying to get them involved in the RZ project as a backer (more like bigger brother lol) The WiFi at the offices of this company was so secure that it did not show up on my MacBook on the Mac or PC side! The question the exec asked me was "Well obviously Amazon storage works for most of the world, but what about companies like us that would need the assurance of storing data on our own servers in our vaults downstairs" Clearly I want the business of this company just as a user of RZ, this would be great. So, here is what we are looking at and designing today: We will build a 2nd mode to RZ which will allow any user to add a FTP location (to their private servers for storage) and we will "Pass-Through" data saved in your RZ license, which gains the benefit of our file anonymous security writing (so mysong.wav now becomes DKFJ2039SDJKSDSKJ). If anyone breach access to the client owned servers, all they will see is a bunch of serial numbers lol, no file extentions no folder no nothing, 100% anonymous. Some would ask "Well why do I need RZ to do this on my server when we can use FTP direct?" The issue with FTP is that you do not get the payment front end that RZ provides, and also, just for file sharing with clients and colleagues, you have to constantly create FTP permissions or often give access to 1 single FTP location with multiple client folders in 1 place. When a post production house of Warner Movie Studios want to send a director and producer a burnable DVD of the previous days shoot (dailies), now its as easy as creating a Zip file of a VIDEO_TS or ISO file. Back to music: I was thinking of adding a way to sell individual files which is easy for us to add, but I personally love iTunes and think that this is what they do well and we want to keep RZ in its own "lane" for users that already use iTunes. So instead of a user kicking themselves trying to decide "which one should I use", hopefully this will make it easier to say "Ha, I can use both!" Ehh, long post here, I have been writing all morning and in turbo mode lol | |
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| | #41 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Working on my skills more =)
Posts: 6,075
| Well I think this "tickler" "guerilla marketing" strategy is ham-handed and a recipe for disappointment. It's not the way to approach online marketing, at least not on free-form discussion boards like this. Let's look at the Arsenal thread: in that case, Mix jumped the gun publishing the ads, so everyone was caught with their pants down, the dealers didn't know wtf the product was, etc. At least API/Arsenal had an excuse in that case. But what followed was the obvious point that they were copying the Federal design. Since API didn't provide any other information until NAMM, what ensued was a lot of free speculation that just ended up hurting the launch terribly. Because we thought it was a Federal reissue thing, we thought that this might be API's foray into old-school tube and transformer gear. As it turned out, the Arsenal preamp is an enormous box of air: a $5 THAT IC chip, with nary a tube nor transformer in sight, behind this huge retro-military faceplate. ![]() So similarly here we have an inexperienced keeno software developer come on and try to taunt us with his secret inventioning. As if there is something so profound going on here. All that's needed to do this today? How about using the password feature in WinZip, say, or Stuffit for Mac. Paypal me the dough and I'll send you the password. Lickety split, and no one gets a cut other than Paypal (Paypal gets a cut in the case of "RZ" also). Oh sure it doesn't have 256 bit encryption etc. etc. oh wow. But you can put an unimaginably huge padlock on a screen door; and it won't stop someone from cutting through the screen (buying one copy, decrypting it, and distributing it for free).A more enlightened approach to approaching the online forum opinion leader group is to be totally upfront and humble: here is what we're doing, what are your thoughts? Don't fight so hard to defend yourself: the customer isn't always right, but their perceptions are more real than your visions. If they say then see if you can figure out what would excite them. If they point out problems lose your religion and concede any accurate points. Whatever you do, manage expectations so that you can build awareness without ever exposing your product to disappointment.![]() |
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Let me clear something here also, RZ does not take any "cut" from your PayPal or Amazon Payments revenue. Our beta platform did something like this but with RZ we switched to an online hosting model. The RZ license is a data plan administered worldwide with our partners at Amazon Payments services handling billing. When you sign up for RZ, you do it at Amazon's site and get an activation code ;) Quote:
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| | #43 | |
| Gear maniac | Quote:
. A few inquiries have hinted at this strategy as a loophole to selling adult entertainment i.e., selling a .torrent of a burnable DVD with PayPal. RZ is designed to relieve us of any legal liability in the instance someone started selling a .torrent of a DVD-R showing your favorite movie still in the theater. The seller wouldn't be hard to find however because they will need to use their PayPal or Amazon account. As part of our terms of service, we strongly state that we do not represent, police or monitor our licensees activities as we only are providing a format license to users. We only provide technical support to our licensees and their buyers/recipients. This would be similar to how a CD-R or DVD-R can be used to sell illegal content in the street, the owners of the CD/DVD format are not responsible for user actions. If a content owner happens to find their property for sale illegally in a RZ, we advise them to contact PayPal or Amazon for DMCA directly as we as a company are not taking payment or own the hosting servers of said content. For legal use: Torrents delivers very slow (unless on a private tracker with good seeds) and not a recommended protocol for monetization. RZ hosting delivers data to buyers at an average rate of 100MB per minute and faster for users on fiber optics (FIOS). Torrents can take hours or even days to deliver and the .torrent file is then sharable without a way to get money before the data is sent. But of course a user can sell a .torrent file in a RZ if they like, which will remove the cost of our data delivery, but to each his/her own. | |
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| | #44 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 218
| This seems like a very interesting concept. Im rather curious about the whole resale concept you mentioned somewhere in this thread. Are you saying I could sell my album with RZ for say $10, but if a fan of mine sells a copy using RZ they can make $2 and myself $8? If this is true Im wondering how this works. Is RZ only a server which stores and sends out the zipped files? In this case people would only be able to sell their music through direct links from their website. Or will RZ have its own catalogue in which people can browse (like itunes). Good luck with the launch of RZ, and if the re-sale concept is how I envision it... thats F*k'N sweet! -Ryan |
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| | #45 | |
| Lives for gear Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan
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__________________ Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable http://www.myspace.com/jarrydee | |
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| | #46 | |
| Gear maniac | Quote:
Hey Ryan, RZ works with direct links through your website, Myspace, Facebook, E-Mail marketing, Blogs, Google Adwords, Yahoo Search Marketing, Twitter, right here in this GS post!!! Basically anywhere you can place a URL, is your store! Reseller works only with your first generation of buyers, so after they buy your package they get the rights to create a Reseller link if they want. You as the content owner can promote this to your fans of course. The Reseller's buyers can not set up a Reseller link which gives your established Resellers maximum profitability. Imagine a music blog picking up on your project and they can make money by giving you exposure to their readers by just adding a PayPal e-mail. How about a music magazine picking up your project and selling it from a review and HTML project page serving their Reseller links. I think you may be getting the clearer picture... How about we make it crystal clear with some preview pictures? ![]() (Note: The following screenshots are parts of the RZ Creator and Extractor on XP, but is the same on Mac OS X and Vista.) [img=http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9771/sansweruo7.th.jpg] (Here is where you set up our Reseller feature after you add your files and press the "Save Zip" button to configure your package options) ^ I also included an example of how you can split point-of-sale transactions with band members too. You can set this up using a "price" or "percent" calculation. Notice the final calculation on the lower left which you will receive... and YES, you can do both Reseller and Split Payments in 1 RZ :) Split Payments work with PayPal (up to 249 recipients) and Amazon Payments (up to 5 recipients). Our Reseller feature (marketed as VIRAL RETAIL) is a PayPal exclusive feature. [img=http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7905/neruksanswerextractorzx2.th.jpg] (Notice the "white label" aspect of the RZ Extractor for you to include a custom banner and header in each of your RZ!) ^Here is the buyer's view after they click on your RZ URL and buy your product. After payment, the "Partnership" button becomes clickable. The Viral Retail Reseller panel displays to your buyer the amount they make to resell. The buyer enters the PayPal address they want to be paid to and click the "Create" button. RZ will generate a URL for your buyer and now he/she is marketing and promoting your package as your Reseller/Partner :) The possibilities are unlimited with our Reseller feature (GS Reseller section anyone?). Why pirate when you can make real money? P.S. If you place in a registered UPC (and ISRC for a single) we also report Reseller along with your direct sales activity to SoundScan. Now you understand what the eBay guy witnessed as a demo. | |
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| | #47 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 218
| Amazing. My bands album will be out around August, so we will be sure to keep an eye out for the launch of website! It seems like it could be a really exciting beneficial tool. Will customers only need a paypal account for this? Or is it just an RZ account? Both? Also, is there anyway to sign up to be notified when the website launches?? |
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| | #48 | |
| Gear maniac | Quote:
You will only need a standard PayPal account to get started. If you want to use the advanced Reseller and Split Payments features, then you will need a verified PayPal Premier or Business account (a free upgrade from personal) to get your API credentials (also free). You will then need to sign up for our service which is administered with Amazon, so you will need an amazon.com account, or you can easily set one up on the spot. Once you sign up and instantly receive your activation code, you get the RZ app for XP/Vista/Mac OS X, enter your code and within a few minutes your products are ready to sell. All you need to do at that point is distribute the URL link we provide in the app and all the information is included inside a super small 1KB zip file for your buyers to quickly download, buy and redeem your product from. We will make an official announcement in the "New Product Announcement" section here on GS and there will be an extensive PR blitz from several partnered companies. | |
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| | #49 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 218
| Hey CDS, is this launching anytime soon? Thx |
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| Gear maniac | We are inches away.... We would have released already (the app and platform are all ready to go), but we needed to add 2 new very important features in last minute... 1) One of the popular features of our LAMbCase beta was a feature called "KodeKey". Kodekeys are assignable passwords (pin codes) that can be activated to a package, so intead of pressing up CDs, you can add KodeKeys to a package and sell with plastic cards, variable data printed flyers ect.. with LAMbCase this required us to manually create for our users per request..... In Retail Zip, we just added a KodeKey Generator that will allow you to create unlimited KodeKeys for a package directly from your desktop! I feel this is a very important feature for users looking to ditch CD manufacturing and replace it with delivering the full quality files electronically... so the way you would sell CD units to a distributer, now KodeKeys will be sold as "units" the same way. 2) We are adding 1,344,000 bit password certificates for users wanting to archive and sell private data, so basically, your buyer (or workgroup recipient) will need to load this super strong key certificate to proceed with purchases or extractions. Sorry to rant out the post, but we just put up the pre-release website like 15 minutes ago and you can now view a bit more info at www.retailzip.com It's coming in a few weeks tops as we are making sure that Windows and Mac versions are available day 1 and the help manual is robust (yes there is a user manual) and we are taking no mercy at granting the world unlimited digital retail power. |
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| | #51 |
| Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 81
| Hi, i may have missed this, but does this service do anything to stop people copying the file once purchased? If so, how? |
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| | #52 | |
| Gear maniac | Quote:
No service in the world prevents copying, but Retail Zip's suggestion is to sell full quality products such as HQ Wav (you can also add mp3 version with it). The cost to move a large package in RZ to a buyer is cheaper for sellers than selling web quality material through current music services.... While other services deal in mp3s and web quality videos, we are suggesting that content owners include as much diverse content in a package as possible... Full quality Wav; mp3 version of the same; Burnable DVD ISO image of video content (or a HQ DivX); pdf liner notes; Ringtones; Computer wallpapers; and arm the reseller feature.. In a single package this is a great deal for anyone instead of using DRM. For example, a 4GB Retail Zip package will cost you less in charges than selling a $7 - 40mb album on iTunes :) | |
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| | #53 | |
| Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2003
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In essence, your offering a (possibly?) more attractive way to sell digital products..? Did i read correctly that as part of the service you offer hosting for the media? Is this unlimited bandwidth/storage or..? | |
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