Gearslutz Record Label?

[HIGHENDONLY]

Hey jules why don't you make a record label after this forum. You would make killer records. Look at all the all star engineers you attracted to this site. Plus you already got the myspace page and the Gearslutz swag...Than start up a forum where talent can post their demo's. We all vote on who should be the next artist signed with gearslutz..This can be bigger than American Idol...It can be the next phenomenon.....

[daillman]

Originally Posted by HIGHENDONLY

Hey jules why don't you make a record label after this forum. You would make killer records. Look at all the all star engineers you attracted to this site. Plus you already got the myspace page and the Gearslutz swag...Than start up a forum where talent can post their demo's. We all vote on who should be the next artist signed with gearslutz..This can be bigger than American Idol...It can be the next phenomenon.....

smart,kool,and needed!

[opentune]

Hmm, i could contribute a song. Or even two songs...

[methmetal]

word.

[adrianex]

I dunno as business desicion (if it woul'd be good, and make any real proft out of it) but it defently would cool.

so, here another vote

[Jax]

Originally Posted by adrianex

I dunno as business desicion (if it woul'd be good, and make any real proft out of it) but it defently would cool.

so, here another vote

If anybody's going to make money from it, Jules should be first in line. Easily 60/40 or better in Jules' favor. I don't know that he would have the time or interest in doing this, given that he's already working FT and tending to this website.

Cool idea either way.

[adrianex]

I was talking on Jules making the $$, sorry I didn't make my self clear. But I was trying to say the same thing than you...

Cheers

[Jose Mrochek]

something that would be very cool, if the record label doesn't come through.. is have some sort of debate on why so and so gearslut should get signed, and who shouldn't. Play record executives for a week.. that could be fun.

[Jules]

Its odd you know, I have been involved in on-line engineer & producer discussion forums now for 10+ years now and whenever actual MUSIC gets shared, things can go a little weird! You can have two people that love their Distressors, but when one plays their death metal track to the other person playing a country and western song.. the planets can collide! (as in ... "you actually LIKE that shit?)

Anyhow..

I will bear it in mind and thanks for the suggestion..

[Stiff]

Damn good idea if I may say so myself

[HIGHENDONLY]

Come on Jules...We need to make this forum more than a bunch of text..Put webcam access and live audio feeds so we can all chat live in audio and video....Than we can really learn, you can have live workshop's. Have you showing technique's and we all can watch. A new product come's out you can have a video commercial on it, instead of the changing banner's...More interactive...

[supaheef]

A record company seems crazy. The Big 5 know how to promote and distribute, and they do it best. Where they are going wrong is in their choice of WHAT/WHO to promote. Let's look at Gearslutz A&R. Think of us as an Artistic Consultancy Firm. Hits for Hire.

If we do this, lets do it properly. What are the aims?

1. To promote good music, not just mass-produced "musak", but actual ART. Music that SHOULD exist, and music that SHOULD be shared.

2. Get this music heard, preferably with a mainstream audience. For that we need industry backing, somehow (read on...)

3. Get good engineering heard. Find a good artist, then team them up with the right people to get the best out of them, and their music.

Here's one way it could be done: Pick a panel, say of 3-5 of our bigger name slutz. These guys NEED to have industry contacts, and big ones. These guys have the final say, as they have done the hard yards, and the work they have done (and hence, their instincts and choices) have been successful. If we want big business to get behind this, it needs the backing of proven successful people.

Successful people are busy, we only need them for the big decision at the end. How about every 10 weeks or so, GS members vote on say 15-20 pieces of music (only one per artist, so find that basket and fill it with eggs) and cut that group down to the five most popular entries. Then, the Panel will choose their winner, and pimp them to their contacts. Now, who chooses the 15-20 pieces to vote for, well I don't know. I'd imagine there would be more than that entered, but by holding regular votes every 10 weeks (5 per year, with a 2 week break for Xmas) that should spread the entries around. I would vote a for NON-genre specific process, with simply the best piece of art chosen.

Panels could be rotated, and mixed up so no genre is favoured over another. Also, no recording should be judged on sound quality (I know, this IS Gearslutz) but instead special mention could be made to entries that feature great engineering/production, and perhaps winning artists get teamed up with outstanding engineers/producers/session players to achieve the best result. Find a new Michael Jackson? Match him to the next Quincy Jones! Or Bruce Swedien! This is where we need the record companies to get behind this; basically, we need the money! None of us have any, and if we do we spend it on more gear. Once the record company is sold on the artist, the right people can be teamed up in GS-member studios (Wireworld, perhaps, The Library UK?).

The best song, the best artist, every ten weeks. After all, what's the one thing we all complain about on GS (after the gear)? Music QUALITY! We all work with music everyday, so we should be plenty good judges.

heath.

ps. sorry if this doesn't make too much sense. it's late, but i wanted to get my idea out be fore i fall asleep and forget it.

[Jonboy79]

It'd be a really cool experiment. I think it'd give an overall view of how fellow gearslutz view music. For example, I don't like country music but I've come to appreciate the talent and song writing behind it. Maybe this whole thing would work on a slightly smaller scale, like maybe Fletcher new tunecore project could put up the winning artists songs free of charge or something like that. Overall though I think it's a really cool idea and would make this place that much more fun.

[networkresearch]

hell, if american idol, (yes, a guilty pleasure), can churn out platinum records, there's no reason this forum can't accomplish something. maybe not on that scale as they have a built-in buying audience, but maybe something more substantial. Be that something metal, hip-hop, country, 60's girl group revival..whatever.

just my two cents,

jonathan

[DontLetMeDrown]

Hell yeah! Sign my band Jules!

[Jose Mrochek]

Originally Posted by networkresearch

hell, if american idol, (yes, a guilty pleasure), can churn out platinum records, there's no reason this forum can't accomplish something.
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this forum could acomplish some great collaboration, both in songwriting and engineering.. but platinum records are accomplished by business men, not engineers or musicians.

My personal advice to Jules now that this community has grown to be so big, is to charge for the service. (yeah I know) ... but if gearslutz could generate a substantial amount of money on a monthly basis, gearslutz could start organizing events that bring public attention. For example an anti-loudness war concert, get mainstream media coverage on important issues that bother us, and start changing things rather than just talking about them. I know charging a fee would scare many people away, but reality is that things are accomplished with money. Maybe then we could start talking about labels and stuff.

[J Wubz]

yeah sign us!!! ha!

[Meriphew]

Originally Posted by Jose Mrochek

My personal advice to Jules now that this community has grown to be so big, is to charge for the service. (yeah I know) ... but if gearslutz could generate a substantial amount of money on a monthly basis, gearslutz could start organizing events that bring public attention.

I think that would be a very bad idea. There was another pro audio website a few years back that was doing pretty good - until they switched to a 'pay to play' deal. They went into a downward spiral pretty quickly after implementing those fees.

[celticrogues]

Originally Posted by Jose Mrochek

My personal advice to Jules now that this community has grown to be so big, is to charge for the service. (yeah I know)

I disagree. I think that the whole point of having a forum such as this is to promote open collaboration and open exchange of ideas among anyone, from anywhere in the world. The point of a forum such as this, IMHO, is not to actively change things, but simply to give people a place to share their ideas; if these ideas are valid then they will inspire people to get involved and make a change, but the internet forum should not get directly involved, as that would undermine the free exchange of ideas. By charging a fee to participate, you severely limit the membership of a board and again, limit the exchange of ideas, all bad things IMO.

Cheers!
-Mike

[Jules]

Actually i think you will find if you read this sites Terms & Conditions you are all ALREADY SIGNED to Gearslutz Records and are in the middle of recording your 'difficult' 2nd album...

Where have you been anyway? Its time to start vocals...

[max cooper]

Originally Posted by supaheef

The Big 5 know how to promote and distribute, and they do it best.

Yeah, bang-up job lately.

[Jose Mrochek]

Originally Posted by celticrogues

I disagree. I think that the whole point of having a forum such as this is to promote open collaboration and open exchange of ideas among anyone, from anywhere in the world. The point of a forum such as this, IMHO, is not to actively change things, but simply to give people a place to share their ideas; if these ideas are valid then they will inspire people to get involved and make a change, but the internet forum should not get directly involved, as that would undermine the free exchange of ideas. By charging a fee to participate, you severely limit the membership of a board and again, limit the exchange of ideas, all bad things IMO.

Cheers!
-Mike

Mike all you say is true. But I don't know if you were around a few years back, the feel of the forum was completely different when there were less people. You don't need 20K plus members to discuss why the 003 is not what people expected. And I'm sure that the people who REALLY value this forum wouldn't mind paying a few bucks for a good purpose. Don't forget I was not talking about Jules becoming a the next Bill Gates thanks to us (even though it would be cool) but my point was that if people think that "gearslutz" should become an "institution" of some sorts, it needs money.

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by supaheef

1. To promote good music, not just mass-produced "musak", but actual ART. Music that SHOULD exist, and music that SHOULD be shared.

But, as I think Jules alluded to, you could ask 10 of the slutz about a particular piece and get 10 different answers as to whether it makes the grade.

[Jose Mrochek]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

But, as I think Jules alluded to, you could ask 10 of the slutz about a particular piece and get 10 different answers as to whether it makes the grade.

Very true, and I would like to add that we are the worst music critics possible.