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Old 26th July 2012   #1
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DIY DB25 Questions

Hi all -

I've been researching making some DB25 connections for my studio setup, but still have some questions. I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

Background
MY studio is currently wired up with (6) 8-channel boxes that use Gepco 8ch 24AWG Snake Cable, all terminating at my desk into a 3 space panel of 48 xlr + combos + TRS D-series connectors. It all works like a charm, but with 6 8ch snake cables running around the room and soldered into the terminating ends, it's very unwieldy to move things around or grab a panel and do any work on it.

I've thought about wiring the back of each panel with DB25 female connections, and then outfitting the 8ch cable runs with male DB25 on both ends. This would allow me to easily disconnect any panel from the run and then work on it in a much easier way.

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1. Is there any issue with running phantom power through DB25? (I think the answer is the usual "No, but be careful about what you're sending phantom power too;" but just want to be sure.

2. I've decided to do crimp-style pins instead of soldering a bunch of DB25 pins. But I'm at a loss of exactly which pins/connectors/hoods I should get. I see so many options out there, but want to make sure that what I get is appropriate for audio. Can someone point me to the right pins, etc and a good retailer for them?

3. Crimp tools - this is where I really get confused. I've read that the Sargent 3137CT crimp tool is the best/easiest for the job, but it's also fairly pricey for my needs. I see a lot of options out there for D-Sub crimp tools (Paladin, etc) and I don't know if any of these will work, or if I need special dies or what. Does anyone have advice on a reasonably priced crimper and any die or attachment I would need to make the DB25's?

Thanks for everyone's help. I have researched the site and read all the previous DB25 posts, but I'm still a little confused...
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Use the more expensive 'rirned pin' rather that cheap 'formed' contacts and learn to solder.
Having any connection with phantom power on it that ends up going to anything except a suitable mic has the possibility of damaging it. This does not mean don't do it!
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1) There is no issue with running phantom power through a DB25 connector. Of course all the usual concerns apply including connection and contact integrity, etc.

2) Also assuming the basic concerns (mentioned above) there is no particular issue of "appropriate for audio". Mic level and line level audio signals are considered "small-signal" in terms of power, so contact integrity is a concern. That is why better audio connectors use gold plated pins/sockets to avoid the problems of oxidation, etc.

3) Solder-terminated and crimp-style pins each have their benefits and deficiencies. Unless you intent to be terminating connectors in the long term, crimp-style may not be the best choice. As you observe, the cost of the tools is a significant factor if you acquire quality equipment. Note also that if the size of the terminal is not matched to the gauge of the wire, and/or the size of the crimping tool, or if the crimp is not made properly, you could be creating additional termination problems for yourself.

Furthermore, stamped ("formed") vs "machine-screw" ("rimed pin") have their positives and negatives as well. Stamped pins are less expensive and suitable for lower-end applicatoins and/or places where you expect few mating cycles, etc. But IMHO, they are not suitable for very low-level signals like microphone level, etc.

The exact crimping tool and the particular die to use are critically dependent on exactly what style (and even manufacturer and variety) of pins you are crimping, as well as the gauge of the wire you are crimping. For these reasons, the cost of doing crimped pins is significant when done properly. When you are in the mass-scale cable making business, this significant cost is easily covered by the efficiency of termination. But for small scale use, it is not recommended, at least IMHO. You are much better off learning to solder properly, which will be of great benefit elsewhere as well.
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Thanks to both of you for the valuable information! I think I'm going to take the soldered connection route - can't hurt to brush up on soldering skills, and I have a bunch of other cables to make as well.

I appreciate the support and advice!
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