RME Hammerfall AES/EBU out - does it suck?

Eee-jut · 16th September 2003

I've got one of these - it can output AES/EBU on a phono connecter - whasdatallabout? - i thought AES was a balanced signal!? - i've been trying to interface it with a load of digital gear - Hedd, L2 among others - a lot of the gear doesn't seem to like this AES/EBU signal coming out of the Hammerfall (my cables are proper)

Has anyone else had a trouble with the Hammerfall's AES output? - i'm starting to think it sucks.

What is a soundcard with a really good AES/EBU output?

cheerio.

Nutmeg II. · 17th September 2003

Did you switche it within the software from S/PDIF to AES/EBU?

dingo · 17th September 2003

If you haven't already, try a 110ohm to 75ohm balun adapter.. usually has XLR3 on one end and BNC on the other.. Canare, Neutrik and others make them. So you'd have a length of 75ohm coax with RCA on one end, BNC on the other, connect that to the BALUN, plug the BALUN into the Hedd or L2. Pray vigorously. Should work.

faeflora · 23rd September 2003

Um none of the Hammerfalls have AES/EBU. It's too "pro" for prosumer RME.

That' phono jack is SPDIF ONLY.

mesmer · 13th October 2003

Aes works, mathias at rme assured me it would work, and it does. its transformer isolated. I expressed my concerns about unballancing aes, so he suggested, instead of floating the shield or tying it to the cold, attatch it to the chassis. My lavry converters are connected this way. it works perfect. Btw mytek bundles rme cards with their converters. I think their software is amazing. The ability to rout any input to any or all outputs, with independent volume and panning, is the greatest.
I tried every other card, But the digiface was the best for me.
mesmer

faeflora · 15th October 2003

Ah, you were referring to the Digiface. Your post says Hammerfall.

Bernd G · 21st October 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Eee-jut

What is a soundcard with a really good AES/EBU output?

Try the Lynx 2 card.

jazzius · 23rd October 2003

Yeah, anyone thinking of trying to get AES/EBU in and out of a hammerfall, think again........it doesn't work......despite what they claim........for this you'll want the RME digi 96/8 PAD ....works like a charm

**Riccardo** · 23rd October 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Bernd G
Try the Lynx 2 card.

Has anybody tried the Lynx AES 16 yet?

Bernd G · 23rd October 2003

No, but I do have the AES 8 option for the LYNX II - works quite nicely, and the folks over at LYNX ONE are very responsive to resolving problems occurring with various DAWs.
Cheers

recordista · 3rd November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by jazzius
Yeah, anyone thinking of trying to get AES/EBU in and out of a hammerfall, think again........it doesn't work......despite what they claim

Huh?

Use the right cable, check 'Professional' under 'SPDIF Out' in the control panel and it works just fine into every device I've tried.

jazzius II · 3rd November 2003

Not for me......i've had 2 different PC's with hammerfalls in.....my cables are proper.......yes, some AES devices will sort of tolerate the hammerfalls' fake AES signal, others won't.......try this......run the same audio twice out of the hammerfall AES and try a null test.....i guarantee you won't get a full null with every AES device.......for instance, the Hedd will tolerate it at 44+48 but will throw a wobbly at 88+96.......i had random pops/clicks with hammerfalls......changed these for RME digi 96/8 PAD's and all clicks dissapperaed......same cables, same 'puters an all......i know other people who had the same experience......

TinderArts · 4th November 2003

The RME ADI-8 DD is an excellent format converter. I bought on when demoing the TC 6000 so that I could interface with anyone's system. It was flawless.

[IMG]******//www.rme-audio.com/images/adi/adi8ddba.jpg[/IMG]

mesmer · 4th November 2003

It works with my lavrys and my apogee ad8000. 110 ohm wire.
Mesmer

Ianneve · 8th November 2003

Are you saying the 96/8 PAD adaptor cable will work on the Hammerfall card cause at xvision they said it won't but I have the feeling it would as it's the same cable as the spdif one on the hammerfall but it has aes instead of spdif. SO it looks anyway. ? I'm using a little m audio co3 spdif to aes converter into hedd. It works but I don't think I really need it. Spdif worked as well.

16th September 2003	#1
Eee-jut Gear interested Joined: Aug 2003 Location: Guam Posts: 6 Thread Starter	RME Hammerfall AES/EBU out - does it suck? I've got one of these - it can output AES/EBU on a phono connecter - whasdatallabout? - i thought AES was a balanced signal!? - i've been trying to interface it with a load of digital gear - Hedd, L2 among others - a lot of the gear doesn't seem to like this AES/EBU signal coming out of the Hammerfall (my cables are proper) Has anyone else had a trouble with the Hammerfall's AES output? - i'm starting to think it sucks. What is a soundcard with a really good AES/EBU output? cheerio. __________________ Suffer fools gladly

23rd October 2003	#8
jazzius Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Amsterdam.....The Netherlands Posts: 593	Yeah, anyone thinking of trying to get AES/EBU in and out of a hammerfall, think again........it doesn't work......despite what they claim........for this you'll want the RME digi 96/8 PAD ....works like a charm __________________ Wisseloord Mastering

23rd October 2003	#10
Bernd G Gear addict Joined: Dec 2002 Location: NY Posts: 337	No, but I do have the AES 8 option for the LYNX II - works quite nicely, and the folks over at LYNX ONE are very responsive to resolving problems occurring with various DAWs. Cheers __________________ BG

4th November 2003	#13
TinderArts Gear addict Joined: Jul 2002 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 417	The RME ADI-8 DD is an excellent format converter. I bought on when demoing the TC 6000 so that I could interface with anyone's system. It was flawless. [IMG]******//www.rme-audio.com/images/adi/adi8ddba.jpg[/IMG] __________________ Support live music! http://www.myspace.com/oblivionsun

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17th September 2003	#2
Nutmeg II. Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2003 Location: GEARmany Posts: 985	Did you switche it within the software from S/PDIF to AES/EBU?

17th September 2003	#3
dingo Gear addict Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 489	If you haven't already, try a 110ohm to 75ohm balun adapter.. usually has XLR3 on one end and BNC on the other.. Canare, Neutrik and others make them. So you'd have a length of 75ohm coax with RCA on one end, BNC on the other, connect that to the BALUN, plug the BALUN into the Hedd or L2. Pray vigorously. Should work.

23rd September 2003	#4
faeflora Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,022	Um none of the Hammerfalls have AES/EBU. It's too "pro" for prosumer RME. That' phono jack is SPDIF ONLY.

13th October 2003	#5
mesmer Gear nut Joined: Jul 2003 Location: shadow hills Posts: 118	Aes works, mathias at rme assured me it would work, and it does. its transformer isolated. I expressed my concerns about unballancing aes, so he suggested, instead of floating the shield or tying it to the cold, attatch it to the chassis. My lavry converters are connected this way. it works perfect. Btw mytek bundles rme cards with their converters. I think their software is amazing. The ability to rout any input to any or all outputs, with independent volume and panning, is the greatest. I tried every other card, But the digiface was the best for me. mesmer

15th October 2003	#6
faeflora Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,022	Ah, you were referring to the Digiface. Your post says Hammerfall.

3rd November 2003	#12
jazzius II Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,002	Not for me......i've had 2 different PC's with hammerfalls in.....my cables are proper.......yes, some AES devices will sort of tolerate the hammerfalls' fake AES signal, others won't.......try this......run the same audio twice out of the hammerfall AES and try a null test.....i guarantee you won't get a full null with every AES device.......for instance, the Hedd will tolerate it at 44+48 but will throw a wobbly at 88+96.......i had random pops/clicks with hammerfalls......changed these for RME digi 96/8 PAD's and all clicks dissapperaed......same cables, same 'puters an all......i know other people who had the same experience......

8th November 2003	#15
Ianneve Gear addict Joined: Jan 2003 Location: Nashville Posts: 495	Are you saying the 96/8 PAD adaptor cable will work on the Hammerfall card cause at xvision they said it won't but I have the feeling it would as it's the same cable as the spdif one on the hammerfall but it has aes instead of spdif. SO it looks anyway. ? I'm using a little m audio co3 spdif to aes converter into hedd. It works but I don't think I really need it. Spdif worked as well.

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