Need help identifying vintage (german?) console

[roginator]

well ...

Looks like you have Barth U111 Begrenzer (limiter there) similar to U273 from Siemens

other modules im not sure,,!!

[stupid_life]

Looks like a cool board, and a fun project. If you weren't located in Sweden I would take this off your hands to rebuild. Good luck!

[stefanb]

Cool! It's a start just getting the name Barth.
But it says U110... So it's probably something else(unfortunately)

I found this page:
BARTH U110 Broadcast-Peakmeter-Amplifiere for all Siens [8003] - €*100.00 : Schmitronic, Studio Equipment

It says that it's a amplifier for a light peakmeter.
Not sure what that is... Is that just an amp to drive an old style vu-meter??
(those with a moving mirror)

It sort of looks like the eq-modules are of another brand, just a slight different
design of the front plate.

I have no idea how the preamp is adjusted on this...
Wonder if it's those knobs below the eq section...?
(haven't had the time to take this thing apart yet)

Anybody have an idea of the gain operation on this one?

Thanks for the info! Let me know if you come across anything else

[kazper]

Check over at Prodigy.


May look here for some information in Kubi's schematics: Vintage german modules (Neumann, Siemens, TAB, IRT, Lawo, ANT, Eckmiller, Adis, Monitora and Telefunken modules and Braunbuch scans)

[stefanb]

Thanks guys for the tips!

I haven't found a match on the eq modules yet. I'll keep looking thru the long list.

Anybody that has a clue about the preamps layout? (how it's operates)

[roginator]

Originally Posted by stefanb

Thanks guys for the tips!

I haven't found a match on the eq modules yet. I'll keep looking thru the long list.

Anybody that has a clue about the preamps layout? (how it's operates)

give us some inside pictures of eq

it should be easy to open it!

D

[stefanb]

Sure! Will do!
Eq module should be easy.
My guess is that the preamps is located in the middle row of the console(all on one front plate), I'll see if its easy to access that one too.

[Batkiss]

Have you had more info about that Hans Eckart Krieger / Ludwig Jahnke desk. I may have some info of that.

[stefanb]

Hey!

No i haven't gotten any more info...

So please enlighten me! :-)

[theBF]

Wow that's a cool unit.

I believe those are telefunken stereo faders .

I used to have to clean them in the seventies. They were in homemade consoles built in 1962 at the radio station I worked at.

Back in those days fancy mixers were more likely built to requirements because they were not common.

BF

[Batkiss]

Those are not stereo faders, and made by kd western germany. For start it is made around 1965 becouse those are all transistors ( not even germanium ). I have manuals and parts of similar console It is made 1967 and i think yours are a bit older. U110 is a meter amplifier but you dont need it becouse meter is not original. H105 is a test tone generator. My console was sold under Hans Eckart Krieger name but had only one H.E.K made module others made by eckmiller and Ludwig Jahnke.

Sorry for my English

[frans]

One Pippi Longstocking movie was made ca. 1949 in Sweden, the more popular TV series with Inger Nilsson was made 1969-70.

[SP2016]

Faders are mono faders, made by Danner in Berlin,Germany.
Danner and Eckmiller were the leading fader manufacturers in that time.
Used in many brands of professional audio equipment and broadcast equipment.
Seydel also was a common used fader brand in the seventies.

[stefanb]

Thanks guys!

Yes I'm pretty sure the faders(and the rest of the console is mono)

Hey Batkiss could you tell me more about that Hans Eckart Krieger console?
(And if possible I'd love to get those manuals)
It would be great to get some info instead of having to figure everything out the hard way...

[rekorder]

This reminds me of a console I have seen before. I think HW was something like "Hans Weiss" or so? If I remember correctly he mostly equipped film-studios and was located in Berlin, West-Germany. The one I saw came from a tiny dubbing-studio. It was sold by VOX-O-RAMA: Startseite, so maybe these guys can give more info. The module on the right is a remote for an EMT-Plate-Reverb.

Since probably special-made for movie-production I wouldn't count too much on Pre-amps at all. Could be the unit was for mixing only and no (Mic-)Preamps are installed. So it's possible it took the incoming +6dB at the input and directly fed it to the first stage, wich might be the EQ. Which is a passive design iirc.

Though it looks impresssive you shouldn't put too much hope in having a supercool vintage thingy here.

btw. kd and Danner is the same (konstantin danner)...

[nickelironsteel]

Yea maybe I can shed some light into this. this is a filmdubbing desk designed by Heinz Weißert BERLIN, GERMANY, hence the HW (Heinz Weissert - IMDb). I got one of those HI/LO EQs and component-wise its from the 60s. all discrete. just perfect. looking for more. those desks were workhorses and like earlier neves ive seen a HW with an ashtray built in. i missed out on that one, sadly. great desk. be proud to own it. i surely would be.

[12ax7]

Originally Posted by nickelironsteel

[...]

ive seen a HW with an ashtray built in.

[...]

...Gotta LOVE it!

Actually, that old stuff (being built the way it was) was pretty much immune to any real danger from cigarette smoking (unlike the operator), as long as you performed fairly decent maintenance.

Its the DIGITAL stuff they're making today that really suffers from the gunk from cigarettes. (So I guess that means that with most modern gear, its kind of a race between the ash/soot/tar on one hand, and the onset of obsolescence on the other.)

...But yeah, I would consider myself quite lucky to own such a piece o' kit!

There is something so elegantly beautiful about the thing, with form following function in such a no-bullshit fashion.

.

[nickelironsteel]

pictures or it didnt happen

[mjrippe]

With cigarette lighters too!

[brianroth]

And in-built cig lighters as well.....

Bri

[nickelironsteel]

those were the times

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