STUDER 089 MODULES: spoilt for choice, any advice ?

[dlmorley]

I had an 089 desk. Nice desk.
I'd do the later strips first. Probably better.
Maybe 2 MKII and 2 MK1
I had the same choice with my Telefunken strips. Did the lot in the end (6 channels, 4 comps and 4 lopass/hipass)

[ajn]

thanks,

Would you use one of the STUDER output options that I've got or go for the brand new Kid Broadcast balancing amp as the output stage?

[dlmorley]

Originally Posted by ajn

thanks,

Would you use one of the STUDER output options that I've got or go for the brand new Kid Broadcast balancing amp as the output stage?

I really wouldn't know! I think the Kid Broadcast one might be easier as it would be new and avoid any recapping or such stuff, but can't really say much more about it die to lack of experience.

[Mono-Peter]

Hi, nice project!
I had all the Studer X89 desks and they all had a great tone. The bis 289 was just to big for my new location and my 189 quadro was in overall poor condition so I slaughtered it (shame on me, but there where just too many things not working properly... try to replace 16 quadro faders!). Now I use a 089 and I love it. Long story short, I racked a pair of the later mk2 preamps together with the dual line amps (XXX.036) and was very happy. To me it sounded just like the tone I liked from the consoles. Maybe the kid broadcast amps are clearer or easier to install (recapping), but I got the tone of the console with the Studer / Studer combination.

[ajn]

Originally Posted by Mono-Peter

... Long story short, I racked a pair of the later mk2 preamps together with the dual line amps (XXX.036) and was very happy. To me it sounded just like the tone I liked from the consoles. Maybe the kid broadcast amps are clearer or easier to install (recapping), but I got the tone of the console with the Studer / Studer combination.

Thanks for the input.
I'll be recapping the dual line amp boards. Did you do this? As for the MKII input units, there doesn't seem to be a lot to do to them. Did you do anything before racking?
As you can see from the photo, I've already had racked by Kid Broadcast a couple of 089 MKI input units going out via a couple of the 089 MKI mono line amp boards. I love them and Dirk at KD did a fabulous job. I think for one of my options I'll go for the same combination you've got and see if there are any noteworthy differences in tone.

thanks again

ajn

[Mono-Peter]

I would recommend recapping the amlifier cards, as far as I remember it's not this many electrolytics there anyway. If you have the possibility, why don't you compare them then with the kid line amps? I also recapped the Input modules, but only in the pre amp / eq section. I did not do the whole aux section, because I don't use this anyway. The mechanical part was more problematic, because the plastic frame of the module does not seem to be very stabile..

[opamp]

hi did you try the kid broadcast against the studer lineamps?
I ve just got a nice 089 mk2 and need lineamps to get balanced 8 channles for a/d..so it might be a soludion for me aswell to call up kidbroadcast.
if you decide to sell the studer line amps please let me know
thank you
simone

[chops]

Originally Posted by opamp

hi did you try the kid broadcast against the studer lineamps?
I ve just got a nice 089 mk2 and need lineamps to get balanced 8 channles for a/d..so it might be a soludion for me aswell to call up kidbroadcast.
if you decide to sell the studer line amps please let me know
thank you
simone

Me too!

[ajn]

I've now ordered 4 rack housings from Kid Broadcast which should be delivered around mi-April.
Three of them will be 2U (for two modules) with PSU installed, output gain pots and +48V switches on front plate. I'll then install the modules and wire up. One of these will have the KB balancing line amps so I'll be able to do a direct comparison with 089 MKII input modules going out via the Studer line amps and out via the KB line amps
.
The final rack is 3U with the same installation. I'm planning to mount it with two 089 input modules going out via two master modules.

I'll keep you posted.

Out of interest, I recently saw a master fader unit from the 189MKII. It seems to have a small line amp built in with a small transformer. Anybody know anything about these?

[Dom & Roland]

I have a studer 089 that i need to sell....any ideas on where the best place to sell it is might be and what i could expect to get for it...it's been recapped and is fully working with a few spare channels and modules? I'm in london.

[Studer_A80]

Hi

I'm looking for about 4 or better 5 INPUT-UNITS (Studer Part 1.090.016) modules for the 089 mark one (will not fit serie II or later) to complete an existing console mk I frame.

if have a lot of things for trade (against the modules) or sale

for example the dual line amp cards or even stereo(mic/line) input units (everything for mark II or later)







Best

Andreas Kuhn
analog - audio

[zamproject]

Originally Posted by Studer_A80

Hi
I'm looking for about 4 or better 5 INPUT-UNITS (Studer Part 1.090.016) modules for the 089 mark one (will not fit serie II or later) to complete an existing console mk I frame.

Hi

I have one MKI module,non tested non recaped
I never take the time to solder a 25 pin ISEP connector to my 289 bus board, all MKII have 33 pin
I can be interested in a trade for 1 or 2 master fader, compressor, or filter

let me know

Zam

[lolonweb]

Hi guys,

I'm looking for a working studer 089 MKII power supply.

Does someone knows where I can finf this ?

Thanks

[Jim Williams]

Replace those old el caps with Panasonic FR series.

I remove the BC109 transistors in these are replace them with Toshiba 2SC3329BL's, that removes the noise. Then sell those old metal can transistors to the botique fuzz tone makers, they pay top dollar for those. Maybe enough to pay for all the work.

[Rea]

I Have a nice 089MKII Desk with 8 Mono and 4 Stereo Input modules +1 stereo reverb send/return module and 4 compressor/limiters.

I am trying to Calibrate the input modules so i can use it as a summing mixer at unity gain.

Ive found the trim pot as a screw type inside the mono modules and made them all equal at input, however, in the stereo modules there is only a screw pot for balancing the left and right but not for gain trim.
Am i overlooking something? I can't seem to adjust the trim for the stereo input units...

[zamproject]

Originally Posted by Rea

I Have a nice 089MKII Desk with 8 Mono and 4 Stereo Input modules +1 stereo reverb send/return module and 4 compressor/limiters.

I am trying to Calibrate the input modules so i can use it as a summing mixer at unity gain.

Ive found the trim pot as a screw type inside the mono modules and made them all equal at input, however, in the stereo modules there is only a screw pot for balancing the left and right but not for gain trim.
Am i overlooking something? I can't seem to adjust the trim for the stereo input units...

nominal level setting for stereo modules are done trough the stereo connection unit, fixed resistor L pad , you have to calculate and change it to keep same input impedance and match your studio level...

[Rea]

Originally Posted by zamproject

nominal level setting for stereo modules are done trough the stereo connection unit, fixed resistor L pad , you have to calculate and change it to keep same input impedance and match your studio level...

The only adjusable pot i can find on the stereo input module is on the side, a plastic screw pot, but it only adjusts the balance between the left and right inputs. Where should the trim pot be located?
Also, what is the best methond to calibrate the board properly?

[zamproject]

Originally Posted by Rea

The only adjusable pot i can find on the stereo input module is on the side, a plastic screw pot, but it only adjusts the balance between the left and right inputs. Where should the trim pot be located?
Also, what is the best methond to calibrate the board properly?

I know my English are not so good but please read again what i write...

I tell you twice...there is NO trim pot for level calibration in the stereo input module. The fixed attenuation are done before trafo in the CONNECTION unit, you have to match this pad to your studio level...
i thing you have to read the service manual, well documented, everything inside...

[Rea]

Thanks. The manual is in german... Worst than your english... Thanks!!