12th September 2010
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#1 | | Gear interested
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Thread Starter | Soundcraft Spirit FX16 Mixer problems I am in the process of putting together my first studio. I received a great deal on a Soundcraft Spirit FX16 w/ Lexicon Effects Processor Mixing board. The "great deal" was due to the fact I purchased it defective. Just how good this deal was is yet to be heard... Before I open this board up to attempt repair, I thought I might get some ideas from you guys. All inputs appear to be working, however the only outputs that work is the Sub Outputs. The only(& most important) problem with the board is that both Mix Outputs [Both L & R Mix Out] do not work. Thanks, in advance, for your response! |
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12th September 2010
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#2 | | Gear nut
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Do the output meters show any activity? That would start to narrow down where the problem lies.
Probably the output opamps, most prone to abuse, right? I have the FX16 schematic at home, parts are identical to the SX that I have. Its out on the web too...
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14th September 2010
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Thread Starter | There is no doubt you guys have steered me in the right direction... Upon further research through Harman's tech support, I'm told exactly what the both of you told me all along. The tech at Harman said that it's probably either a bad driver[5532] or problems with the insert jack plug(INS). When I get some extra time, I plan to tear into this board and diagnose whether it's the insert jack or op amp. BTW, the service tech at Harman said that he would email a schematic and the modification procedure for this board to create another sub-group. That's pretty good PR! |
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14th September 2010
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#5 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Keystone, CO
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Originally Posted by ewhiz There is no doubt you guys have steered me in the right direction... Upon further research through Harman's tech support, I'm told exactly what the both of you told me all along. The tech at Harman said that it's probably either a bad driver[5532] or problems with the insert jack plug(INS). When I get some extra time, I plan to tear into this board and diagnose whether it's the insert jack or op amp. BTW, the service tech at Harman said that he would email a schematic and the modification procedure for this board to create another sub-group. That's pretty good PR! | Would you mind forwarding it and the mod to me at:
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I would much appreciate it.
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14th September 2010
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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when I received my used Allen&Heath System 8 mkIII the outputs were also "non-functional".
Or so I thought.
It turned out that you had to trigger the PFL input to activate a relay that would route the signal to the outputs. Weird. I still don't understand why someone would design or want that. So check your board for PFL engage switch.
Or it might be jumpers missing on the circuit board.
Surface mount, he, you'll have fun if it's the first time you work with that!
Good luck!
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23rd July 2012
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Sorry for such a late response. I have a spirit fx8 with very similar problems. When I run sound through the mains, It is nonexistent unless the gain and fader is maxed out. The sound is very scratchy and unintelligible and the meters show the same. I checked the mix inserts and they are performing fine as is the direct outs, control room, and aux lines . Now the sub out is doing the same thing. I have cleaned all the faders 1/4" jacks with deoxit and the problem still exists. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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23rd July 2012
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Sounds kind of like the output coupling caps are toast. Do you get more HF out than LF?
Best,
Ike
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23rd July 2012
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| Oddly Enough??
Thanks for your reply!! Oddly enough the sub outs are currently working as of 5:38 EST with the macbook run into rca inputs on channels 9/10 and 13/14. The main outs are still halfway working. When they run at very high gain the speakers play a distortion of what i would assume to be the low end or mid-highs (snare drums). The meters respond accordingly to the output of the speakers. Mix inserts are still working. The monitor outputs mirror the sub/mix depending on which is selected. If anyone needs any further info please let me know!
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28th August 2012
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#10 | | Gear interested
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| Further Investigation
Under further investigation I have found the problematic area. It is somewhere between the mix insert and the mono sum. Is the OP Amp somewhere in this area? If not what would the likely fix be? Thanks!
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