Does 1073 need any amplification after it?

[postman56]

I have always wondered if my Neve 1073's sounded as they really should!
The raw modules have been serviced and checked over by Averill's shop without the box they sit in, but I was a little unsure as to if I have been using them correctly.
My question I guess is, should they be followed by a amplifier of sorts,as they would of sitting in the original console?
I have then racked in a box sitting beside the console, and wired properly from what others have stated, but it's a box with the two in there, but no transformers etc coming out of the lunchbox.
Any help or suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it.
postman56

[MGA]

Calling Geoff Tanner..........

[De chromium cob]

No, it doesn't.

[Jay Kahrs]

Well, let's stop and think about it for a minute.

A Neve 1073 module is a mic & line preamp with EQ.

Whudda you think?

Providing everything is properly wired, then it'll have no problem driving a line level signal at +4dBv. If it can't do that, then either somethings wrong the module, your wiring, or you LOL

All the transformers and stuff are inside the module.

[postman56]

Here's the connections I've got the unit wired on the lunchbox.
Anything wrong here?
.
A to pin 2 mic in xlr

B to pin 3 mic in xlr

E to pin 1 mic in xlr

E to line in pin 1 xlr

F to pin 2 line in xlr

G to pin 3 line out xlr

E and V strapped together

K and L tied together

Nothing on J, M, N , P, S

R to xlr pin 2 output

T to pin 3 xlr output

U is power hot

V is pin 1 xlr output and power ground

[DrDeltaM]

Moving to Geekslutz

[De chromium cob]

That looks screwy to me- look at this link for the right connections...

http://members.nuvox.net/~zt.robgrow...nnections.html

[Geoff_T]

Originally Posted by postman56

Here's the connections I've got the unit wired on the lunchbox.
Anything wrong here?
.
A to pin 2 mic in xlr

B to pin 3 mic in xlr

E to pin 1 mic in xlr

E to line in pin 1 xlr

F to pin 2 line in xlr

G to pin 3 line out xlr

E and V strapped together

K and L tied together

Nothing on J, M, N , P, S

R to xlr pin 2 output

T to pin 3 xlr output

U is power hot

V is pin 1 xlr output and power ground

Hi

The first answer is no, why should it need more gain? With +80dB mic gain (86 with parallel input depending on the source impedance) and +20dB line gain, do you need more?

Ignoring your list (to save scrolling) it wires like this.... by the way, there's no G on an Amphenol!

A = Mic pin 2
B = Mic pin 3
C = no connection
D = no connection
E = 0v of power supply and bottom of level pot (if fitted)
F = Line pin 2
H = Line pin 3
J = no connection
K = level pot top or link to L
L = level pot wiper of link to K
M = no connection
N = no connection
P = no connection
R = O/P pin 2
S = no connection
T = O/P pin 3
U = +24v of power supply
V = Ground, and yes, it must be grounded, and the shields of the cables coming from pin 1 of the XLR's.

See if that checks out Have they been recapped in the last 30 years?

[Kestral]

Hmmm...

On a similar note, when I eat my food, do I have to chew and swallow again after I chew and swallow?

Or when I drive my car to the place where I want to go, do I need to drive any further?

Or after I meet a girl and take her home and ---- her, do I need to do anything else to get her to go home with me?

I'm going to print the original post out and mail it to whomever said there's no such thing as a stupid question was obviously mistaken.

[Geoff_T]

Originally Posted by Kestral

Hmmm...

On a similar note, when I eat my food, do I have to chew and swallow again after I chew and swallow?

Or when I drive my car to the place where I want to go, do I need to drive any further?

Or after I meet a girl and take her home and ---- her, do I need to do anything else to get her to go home with me?

I'm going to print the original post out and mail it to whomever said there's no such thing as a stupid question was obviously mistaken.

Hi

Satire aside, if the gentleman were non-technical, non-Neve savvy, and the electrolytic capacitor immediately above the heatsink upon which the 2N3055 lives has dried out, the impedance will rise and the 1073's gain will fall... or not work at all.

Personally, unless one is a smidgen elitist, I don't think there is such a thing as a stupid question. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

I'd personally recommend that he takes the entire rack back to Brents as it's fairly obvious that there's a bad soldered joint or somesuch issue with the rack.

[zmix]

Originally Posted by Geoff_T

...unless one is a smidgen elitist, I don't think there is such a thing as a stupid question...

OK, try this one out: Q:"Is there any such thing as a stupid question"

A:" What a stupid question, of course there isn't"

[Geoff_T]

Originally Posted by zmix

OK, try this one out: Q:"Is there any such thing as a stupid question"

A:" What a stupid question, of course there isn't"

Hi

That's how you answered your own question...

I would have answered "Is that a rhetorical question? Why do you ask?"

More to the point, should posters to a forum, with genuine questions, feel that they can't post them because they will appear "stupid" to a minority that prefers to scoff rather than to advise?

[zmix]

Originally Posted by Geoff_T

I would have answered "Is that a rhetorical question? Why do you ask?"

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[postman56]

The question was really posed , not as a gain issue, but as a sonic issue.
The modules produced amply gain ,a typical U87ai with a setting at -25-30db on a typical V/O narration is plenty.
Seeing that my connections are slighty different on the Amphenol's than noted by Geoff, will I hear a difference in the quality, was this possibly the reason I thought they were not sounding as outstanding as they could?
Thanks

[Geoff_T]

Originally Posted by postman56

The question was really posed , not as a gain issue, but as a sonic issue.
The modules produced amply gain ,a typical U87ai with a setting at -25-30db on a typical V/O narration is plenty.
Seeing that my connections are slighty different on the Amphenol's than noted by Geoff, will I hear a difference in the quality, was this possibly the reason I thought they were not sounding as outstanding as they could?
Thanks

Hi

I think your best bet is to have the rack c/w modules checked over. I doubt that there's anything wrong with the 1073's as you've already had them serviced.

From my experience of looking at third party racks, there's a high probability that a simple wiring error is affecting the signal.

Have someone check the rack for you.