3rd December 2007
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#1 | | Gear interested
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Thread Starter | hard wired power conditioner?
Hi. I just moved into a new house and I'm in the process of building my new music/computer room in the basement. I've got the lights on a standard 15amp circuit and I'm running a dedicated 20amp circuit just for the outlets. I got to thinking though - I know I can use Furmans in my rack to clean the power, but I was wondering if there was a hard wired alternative? I'm not looking for anything really extravagant, just something that could handle a 20amp load that I could hang off the service panel.
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3rd December 2007
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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Before you even worry about that, the best thing you can do is to check that the fuse supplying your 20 A studio power is on a different mains leg than any appliances with motors(pumps, fridge, boiler motors, AC, etc) and flourescent or dimmed incandescent lighting. That'll help remove clicks and pops from motors going on/off. It might take some time to move the fuses around in the main service, but it's well worth it.
As long as you're in the planning stage, you should also look into a decent UPS power unit. That should take care of any remaining noise issues that are external from your audio.
Best, Paul
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if you're thinking of useing a balanced tranny here sure it can be done... but most places require you to have a certified electrician do the work to avoid shock/fire hazzards...
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4th December 2007
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by paully Before you even worry about that, the best thing you can do is to check that the fuse supplying your 20 A studio power is on a different mains leg than any appliances with motors(pumps, fridge, boiler motors, AC, etc) and flourescent or dimmed incandescent lighting. That'll help remove clicks and pops from motors going on/off. It might take some time to move the fuses around in the main service, but it's well worth it.
As long as you're in the planning stage, you should also look into a decent UPS power unit. That should take care of any remaining noise issues that are external from your audio.
Best, Paul |
that's a good idea. It's new construction, and I've got a pretty good sized 200amp box. The way the electrician wired everything, most of everything is on the right leg. The Dryer (which is only used once or twice a week) and some outside lights are the only things on the left. Luckily it's just me and my fiancee there, so I don't have to contend with a lot of other people doing things either.
So, when you mention a UPS, are you talking about a hardwired one? Or just your run of the mill small APC units?
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4th December 2007
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Originally Posted by dementedchord if you're thinking of useing a balanced tranny here sure it can be done... but most places require you to have a certified electrician do the work to avoid shock/fire hazzards... | Thanks, my dad is actually an ex-electrician and has offered to help me (I can do the wall wiring - but I'm not comfortable doing the panel work myself). I haven't had a chance to hit him up with ideas about this though.
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4th December 2007
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Originally Posted by jeebustrain So, when you mention a UPS, are you talking about a hardwired one? Or just your run of the mill small APC units? | >>>>>>>>>>>>>
These units vary depending on the application and the $$ spent. The cheaper USP units use a stepped sine wave to approximate the 60 cycles that your service provides. Kind of like comparing a digital conversion of an analog wavefrom. Not quite the real thing, but pretty close. Some studio owners won't settle for that. They want a true waveform. I've had luck with Tripplite units. Here's something to look at, from general USP units to a specific model which could handle your 20 A power spec. BTW, you could Ebay those Furman units and make a nice downpayment on the real deal  . Tripp Lite UPS Systems Tripp Lite SmartPro UPS Systems Tripp Lite | UPS Systems | SMART2200RMXL2U
Best, Paul
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i noticed your in st louis... i'm across the river... you might want to redonsider doing any wiring if you are in the city proper.... when the shop i worked at moved into the city we were not allowed to even pull cable... inspector insisted it had to come out and be done by electrician.... we were an electronics shop for crying out loud... i serviced the system at (the old) busch stadium but i cant pull wire in our own shop??? the city can be crazy like that...
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5th December 2007
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Originally Posted by dementedchord i noticed your in st louis... i'm across the river... you might want to redonsider doing any wiring if you are in the city proper.... when the shop i worked at moved into the city we were not allowed to even pull cable... inspector insisted it had to come out and be done by electrician.... we were an electronics shop for crying out loud... i serviced the system at (the old) busch stadium but i cant pull wire in our own shop??? the city can be crazy like that... |  , thanks. Actually, I'm in the outer reaches of Fenton (right into Jefferson county). I don't think they even have laws out here.  Plus, my dad is (or at least was) certified w/ the city of St Louis to do his own electrical work. He had to take this lame test and even got a nice certificate from the City.
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5th December 2007
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Originally Posted by paully >>>>>>>>>>>>>
These units vary depending on the application and the $$ spent. The cheaper USP units use a stepped sine wave to approximate the 60 cycles that your service provides. Kind of like comparing a digital conversion of an analog wavefrom. Not quite the real thing, but pretty close. Some studio owners won't settle for that. They want a true waveform. I've had luck with Tripplite units. Here's something to look at, from general USP units to a specific model which could handle your 20 A power spec. BTW, you could Ebay those Furman units and make a nice downpayment on the real deal  . Tripp Lite UPS Systems Tripp Lite SmartPro UPS Systems Tripp Lite | UPS Systems | SMART2200RMXL2U
Best, Paul | well, I don't have any particularly high end stuff, and it's purely just for personal enjoyment, but I figured if I could spend a few extra bucks to do it a little more "right," it'd be worth it just to have less hassle and not having to worry about things like ground lifts and such.
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