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Old 26th May 2004   #1
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CSI: Can they DO that?

I'm a fan of the show CSI, and on the DVD material, they make a big deal of the fact that they never fake the science. Whatever they show on an episode can be done.

So here's my deal. I've seen them do things several times that defy my understanding of audio. In one episode, they take a tape from a handheld, memo style recorder, and extrapolate a 3d image (not just stereo) of the car that it was recorded in, and determine that the sound of the shooting came from the drivers side.

In another episode, they take an answering machine message, and filter out the spoken words in the foreground, isolate a background noise, and pick out the words that a bartender is speaking in the background.

In yet another, they take a voice that's been run through an anonymizing filter (robo-voice kinda thing), and reverse the filter process, get a clean voice, and are able to do a voice-print identification of a suspect.

Can they really do this kind of stuff? Is there a whole world of "forensic" audio that's using different tools, runs in different circles than us normal audio engineer types?

Just curious.

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I dunno about that audio magnifcation, but that stuff where they take a blurry security video image and crisply resolve the writing reflected in someone's eye is complete horsesh*t. That's not just CSI though a ton of shows like to do this.
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There was a show on Discovery I think it was about this same issue...

It was said that a lot of what happens in CSI is hype and can't really happen...


Hollywood at it's best.

It is a great show though...

Shouldn't this thread be movved to the gear free zone?
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probably, except that I was hoping for some super geeky answer about how they can spectra analyze audio into pheon wave sources.

You know. Like that.

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probably, except that I was hoping for some super geeky answer about how they can spectra analyze audio into pheon wave sources.

You know. Like that.

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There's actually a lot you can do with a mono signal, if you know where exactly the mic was in the space. Especially with something impulsive like a gunshot, you can identify the individual reflections by looking at the signal, and the time difference between the reflections translates directly to distances between the room's surfaces and the microphone. So you could, for example, get a good idea of where a person was standing in a large room when they clapped their hands. Whether this would work in the case of a gunshot coming from outside a car, i don't know...
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I remember seeing one episode of CSI (maybe CSI miami, don't remember) where they're all talking in the 'sound' room. the camera zooms in from behind a desk and on the desk there's a mackie/logic controller, but upside down (faders towards the camera)

Been trying to see what stuff they put in the racks, but couldn't see that.


Mostly hyped poo though.


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As a sidenote: I think I've once heard that nasa has a special department researching stuff that can be seen in sci-fi series/movies.. to check if one day technology will be able to do those things (holodeck, warp speed, replicator, ...)
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