imedance matching - Gearslutz.com Gearslutz.com
 


All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > The Forums > Geekslutz forum

imedance matching
New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 7th March 2007   #1
Gear addict
 
ramjet's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: ayr, north queensland, australia
Posts: 400

Thread Starter
imedance matching

hi

this arose out of one of my other posts so here goes.

it has to do with the pa that i work with daily

the output of the desk is 75 ohm the input of the graphic is 20k ohms(not a miss read) output of the graphic is 300 ohms and the input of the powered speakers is 44 ohms. is this a mess and am i damaging the signal or should i not worry about this. it just got me curious when i read that is i make a pad for something that i would need to know the input and output impedances of what it was going between.

any info gladly recieved
__________________
cheers David Luscombe (aka ramjet)



ITS NOT THE KNOBS ON THE CONSOLE THAT MATTER, ITS THE KNOB BEHIND IT!!!!!!

Music is the space between the notes ~~Claude Debussy~~

Check out my band if you want... http://www.myspace.com/jasperbandaus
ramjet is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7th March 2007   #2
Lives for gear
 
paully's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Northern New Jersey
Posts: 562

Where did you get the 44 ohm input figure from for the powered monitors? That just doesn't sound right. List the brand/model, and whether they are balanced or unbalanced. You may also be able to do a quick check with a meter, provided there are no caps on the inputs.

Paul
__________________
WADAYAKNOW.. For the first time in my life, I'm wrong again!
paully is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 7th March 2007   #3
Gear addict
 
ramjet's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: ayr, north queensland, australia
Posts: 400

Thread Starter
hi

yes my fault again i typed it all incorrect.

brands are as follows: Allen and Heath ML4000 output imp 75ohms
ARX EQ60 input imp 20k ohms output imp 300ohms
ARX SPL12 & SPL18 input imp 44k ohms

yes these are all correct have even double checked my typing.

so is this causing me trouble, i just find all the different numbers interesting as in the manufactures of differest equipment are all different and was wondering what the theory of impedance in this instance is and what effect it has

all of this is balanced
ramjet is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 8th March 2007   #4
Gear Guru
 
tINY's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Location: Orygun
Posts: 11,202



Impedance matching is important when you are dealing with high frequencies like your CB, cable TV, and Ethernet....

At audio frequencies, you want a low output impedance and a high input impedance so that most of the voltage shows up across your inputs. The only place where you might not want input impedances high (above 10k) is mic pre-amps and when there is a transformer coupled output (and even then, its usually just fine).

The mic pre-amp sometimes needs to have a lower input impedance because there is less noise that way - the mic is a very low level signal.

The tranformer outputs sometimes will have too low a current in the secondaries if the input impedance of the next stage is too high.

The time you really need to worry about matching impedance for line-level audio is when you are the phone company - or have some other reason for having 10 miles of wire between devices.....



-tINY

tINY is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 8th March 2007   #5
Lives for gear
 
paully's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Northern New Jersey
Posts: 562

The general rule-of-thumb for matching inputs to outputs is found by multiplying the output impedance by 15. A ratio of 15:1 or higher is usually acceptable.

In your case, 300 X 15 = 4,500 (or 4.5K) = minimum load impedance = 15:1.

Insert the powered speaker's input impedance (44,000/300), and you get a ratio of 146:1. That's a factor of 146, much higher than 15, and probably acceptable.

This is a general quesstimation for doing things. Look for optimal impedance matching in the equipments' manuals.

Paul
paully is offline  
Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
Stereo matching willythekid So much gear, so little time! 2 29th December 2006 08:25 PM
Impedance Matching Giganova Low End Theory 4 13th October 2006 03:21 AM
Impedance Matching VivaLaVinyl Low End Theory 6 27th March 2006 03:53 AM
Matching mic with pre. cowboycurtis High end 10 19th February 2006 08:03 PM
spectral matching scius Rap + Hip Hop engineering & production 0 3rd January 2006 09:55 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:43 PM.

Home - Search Forum - Contact Us - Terms Of Use / Privacy Policy - Advertise on Gearslutz - All Advertisers - Top
 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com LTD - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office - 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.
Hosted by Nimbus Hosting.

By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies.

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.