The GUTZ - Page 6

pan60 · 4th June 2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TAVD

Nice work, Terry. I guess it doesn't matter that the ground wires don't all terminate to one pot?

what am i missing?
they look it to me.

**Tim Farrant** · 4th June 2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by phaqu

Heres one.

Is that a DIY opto compressor?

phaqu · 4th June 2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Farrant

Is that a DIY opto compressor?

No, its a Demeter VTCL-2a comp/limiter.

TAVD · 4th June 2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pan60

what am i missing?
they look it to me.

I'm just wondering (certainly not criticizing) if star grounding makes any difference here. In other words, grounding each pot to the one with all the wires as opposed to looping it from one pot to the next.

Wavebourn · 5th June 2007, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TAVD

I'm just wondering (certainly not criticizing) if star grounding makes any difference here. In other words, grounding each pot to the one with all the wires as opposed to looping it from one pot to the next.

It is not an amplifier so ground wiring sequence does not matter at all.

pan60 · 15th June 2007, 07:47 PM

here is the gut's of the new great river MP-500NV

Lynn Fuston · 18th June 2007, 03:54 PM

MM HV3D.

nosebleedaudio · 18th June 2007, 04:13 PM

The JM-130 Mic pre:

gevermil · 18th June 2007, 11:34 PM

Is that a hardy copy ?

Snatchman · 18th June 2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pan60

here is the gut's of the new great river MP-500NV

Man.....

...Just Beautiful.........

pan60 · 19th June 2007, 12:01 AM

watch for the review with a surprise coming soon!!!

Snatchman · 19th June 2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pan60

watch for the review with a surprise coming soon!!!

Is this a surpise as in " good" or a surprise as in "

"...?

pan60 · 19th June 2007, 03:14 AM

good i think :)

nosebleedaudio · 19th June 2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gevermil

Is that a hardy copy ?

No, that's a JMK Audio mic pre.
Based on the 990C.

Wavebourn · 19th June 2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pan60

good i think :)

It looks very nice with brushed steel, threaded standoffs, thick PCB, good components, I believe that layout and schematics are according to construction!

gasgas · 25th June 2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Larrchild

I know you googled "Gear Sluts" and found us, pal, but we are about recording gear here.

This is pure digital recording gear, with no harmonic or other distortion. Surely the motor, revolving one revolution drives the gears which turn the cams which operate GPO Type 2000 relays which in turn rotate Strowger Uniselectors. When the motor stops so do the Uniselectors. A voltage on the centre wiper of the uniselectors passes through the contacts to light bulbs which remain lit till the motor revolves again. Thus the lights record the motion of the motor and the system is not volatile, has no microprocessors, and best of all has nothing whatever to do with Bill Gates. Also they help warm the environment that the recorder is housed in. Hopefully petrol / gasoline runs the motor.

brianroth · 29th June 2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pan60

the devil made me do it

I'm a bit late to get onto this thread....BUT!.....

HMMM! For some reason, that Grommes mixer looks QUITE familiar to me <g!!>:

Index of /projects/grommes

Pan's unit had a bunch of multi-section 'lytics on the power supply rails that had sh!t the bed, and drop-in replacements were made from unobtanium.

SO, Pan and I did the best scheme we could concoct, which was to mount some "modern" 'lytics onto a piece of phenolic board. See pix in the link, above.

Pan had a stash of phenolic board, as well as the parts/tooling to "stake" eyelets onto the phenolic. Hence, we went "olde school" for the retrofit. Pan machined the card, I stuffed it/wired it onto the Grommes chassis.

In a Perfect World, I would have found exact replacements for the multi-section 'lytics, but alas....I did the best I could. My motto is "do no harm to vintage gear", but sometimes Ya Gotta Do What Ya Gotta Do to move along.

Interestingly, after Pan's project, I have now run into three other Grommes mixers that are part-and-parcel of the "secret sauce" used by tracking/mixing engineers from around the country.

I now need to look around in my digipix files to see if I have other slutty pix to post....

<g>

Bri

stevep · 29th June 2007, 10:42 AM

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I now need to look around in my digipix files to see if I have other slutty pix to post....

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pan60 · 29th June 2007, 03:30 PM

and it is oh so sweet!

i said it before but let me say again thanks for the help with that thing Brain!

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianroth

I'm a bit late to get onto this thread....BUT!.....

HMMM! For some reason, that Grommes mixer looks QUITE familiar to me <g!!>:

Index of /projects/grommes

Pan's unit had a bunch of multi-section 'lytics on the power supply rails that had sh!t the bed, and drop-in replacements were made from unobtanium.

SO, Pan and I did the best scheme we could concoct, which was to mount some "modern" 'lytics onto a piece of phenolic board. See pix in the link, above.

Pan had a stash of phenolic board, as well as the parts/tooling to "stake" eyelets onto the phenolic. Hence, we went "olde school" for the retrofit. Pan machined the card, I stuffed it/wired it onto the Grommes chassis.

In a Perfect World, I would have found exact replacements for the multi-section 'lytics, but alas....I did the best I could. My motto is "do no harm to vintage gear", but sometimes Ya Gotta Do What Ya Gotta Do to move along.

Interestingly, after Pan's project, I have now run into three other Grommes mixers that are part-and-parcel of the "secret sauce" used by tracking/mixing engineers from around the country.

I now need to look around in my digipix files to see if I have other slutty pix to post....

<g>

Bri

brianroth · 2nd July 2007, 08:37 AM

I tried posting this last night but was having connectivity probs, so my missive apparently went into the bit bucket. Here I Go Again... <g>

First of all, the war story. See the tail-end of the ramble for a link to a pic of my "baby" in it's new home:

Roth Technical Services 32x24 Recording Desk

I recently uncovered "serial number zero" of the I/O strip, the original pre-production prototype. I wish I had taken pix before dismembering it to extract the mic preamp and EQ cards (doing a rackup of them to gauge any local interest for making up some "reissues"), but Oh Well.

Index of /projects/m77/proto

Bri

stevep · 2nd July 2007, 09:05 AM

Nice desk Brian

that must have been allot of work !

brianroth · 2nd July 2007, 09:25 AM

Thanks, Steve! It just about killed me...LOL!

It ended up in your "backyard", so to speak, in Costa Mesa (or was it Santa Ana..I forget!) in the spring of 1978. Maranatha Music decided to build their own studio, and I was friends with their Chief Engineer (Jonathan David Brown, who was originally from here in Okla. City).

It was a pretty tricked-out place, with a Stephens 24 track and Ampex ATR-100 for the recording machines. I had the privilege to interact with John Stephens during the installation..a very fascinating guy!

I forget who did the acoustical designs, but he was well-known Back In That Day.

Bri

nosebleedaudio · 2nd July 2007, 12:57 PM

Brian that looks very nice...
My first thoughts were how long did it take, and it would have taken a nice bundle of cash to get going.
A scary project...

stevep · 3rd July 2007, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by brianroth

Thanks, Steve! It just about killed me...LOL!

It ended up in your "backyard", so to speak, in Costa Mesa (or was it Santa Ana..I forget!) in the spring of 1978. Maranatha Music decided to build their own studio, and I was friends with their Chief Engineer (Jonathan David Brown, who was originally from here in Okla. City).

It was a pretty tricked-out place, with a Stephens 24 track and Ampex ATR-100 for the recording machines. I had the privilege to interact with John Stephens during the installation..a very fascinating guy!

I forget who did the acoustical designs, but he was well-known Back In That Day.

Bri

Cool, there were some good records made in that room

Santa Anna, i think the studio was about 6 or 8 miles from here

Great work on that desk!

Where is your desk now ?

.

brianroth · 3rd July 2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nosebleedaudio

Brian that looks very nice...
My first thoughts were how long did it take, and it would have taken a nice bundle of cash to get going.
A scary project...

Jonathan and I hashed out the details at the Spring 1977 AES show in LA (May, IIRC) and the desk was installed in January (?) 1978. My then-employer bankrolled the parts, etc.

Bri

brianroth · 3rd July 2007, 07:21 AM

Steve, Chris Taylor (who had worked at Maranatha) now has it in his studio, in the same area code as you.

Bri

stevep · 3rd July 2007, 07:32 AM

Nice, ! I need to hook up with him and go check it out, if you ever come out to visit your desk,... Please stop by here

peace,

purpose · 7th July 2007, 06:37 PM

My DIY 525

nosebleedaudio · 8th July 2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by purpose

My DIY 525

Was that a kit?
Looks very good.

Jonkan · 8th July 2007, 02:57 PM

Its peters own pcb i believe?

Very nice work indeed.

/J

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19th June 2007, 12:01 AM	#161
pan60 500 series nutjob Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru land ; ) Posts: 5,959	watch for the review with a surprise coming soon!!! __________________ www.pan60.com quote: The Hammer is like sonic crack. I'm actually afraid to use it for tracking Brad McGowan IF YOU ARE NOT INTO THE 500 FORMAT, THEN YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS! quote: your secret identity is safe with me superman! Peter Montessi it is easy to sound as though one was endowed with great intelligence, whilst speaking amongst a crowd of total morons

19th June 2007, 03:14 AM	#163
pan60 500 series nutjob Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru land ; ) Posts: 5,959	good i think :) __________________ www.pan60.com quote: The Hammer is like sonic crack. I'm actually afraid to use it for tracking Brad McGowan IF YOU ARE NOT INTO THE 500 FORMAT, THEN YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS! quote: your secret identity is safe with me superman! Peter Montessi it is easy to sound as though one was endowed with great intelligence, whilst speaking amongst a crowd of total morons

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2nd July 2007, 08:37 AM	#170
brianroth Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 1,022	I tried posting this last night but was having connectivity probs, so my missive apparently went into the bit bucket. Here I Go Again... <g> First of all, the war story. See the tail-end of the ramble for a link to a pic of my "baby" in it's new home: Roth Technical Services 32x24 Recording Desk I recently uncovered "serial number zero" of the I/O strip, the original pre-production prototype. I wish I had taken pix before dismembering it to extract the mic preamp and EQ cards (doing a rackup of them to gauge any local interest for making up some "reissues"), but Oh Well. Index of /projects/m77/proto Bri __________________ Brian Roth Technical Services Oklahoma City, OK www.BrianRoth.com

2nd July 2007, 09:05 AM	#171
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	Nice desk Brian that must have been allot of work ! __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

2nd July 2007, 09:25 AM	#172
brianroth Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 1,022	Thanks, Steve! It just about killed me...LOL! It ended up in your "backyard", so to speak, in Costa Mesa (or was it Santa Ana..I forget!) in the spring of 1978. Maranatha Music decided to build their own studio, and I was friends with their Chief Engineer (Jonathan David Brown, who was originally from here in Okla. City). It was a pretty tricked-out place, with a Stephens 24 track and Ampex ATR-100 for the recording machines. I had the privilege to interact with John Stephens during the installation..a very fascinating guy! I forget who did the acoustical designs, but he was well-known Back In That Day. Bri __________________ Brian Roth Technical Services Oklahoma City, OK www.BrianRoth.com

2nd July 2007, 12:57 PM	#173
nosebleedaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,330	Brian that looks very nice... My first thoughts were how long did it take, and it would have taken a nice bundle of cash to get going. A scary project...

3rd July 2007, 07:21 AM	#176
brianroth Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 1,022	Steve, Chris Taylor (who had worked at Maranatha) now has it in his studio, in the same area code as you. Bri __________________ Brian Roth Technical Services Oklahoma City, OK www.BrianRoth.com

3rd July 2007, 07:32 AM	#177
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	Nice, ! I need to hook up with him and go check it out, if you ever come out to visit your desk,... Please stop by here peace, __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

7th July 2007, 06:37 PM	#178
purpose Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: london Posts: 73	My DIY 525 Attached Thumbnails __________________ peter

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Jonkan Gear maniac Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 176	Its peters own pcb i believe? Very nice work indeed. /J