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29th March 2013
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e609 black, i5, SM57 & fake SM57 on guitar amp

Hello slutz. Here I bring you a comparison between 3 dynamic microphones that are amongst the most used for guitar cabs nowadays. I also included a fake SM57 as a bonus, so you can compare it side by side to a genuine 57. There are clean and dirty signal takes, some of them with instrumental accompaniment so you can compare the guitars into a fuller context.
I know dirty ones aren't the greatest tones I can achieve through the pedals used here, perhaps I didn't take enough time for adjusting reamp's level, but they are still decent.
I hope some people find this shootout to be useful.

Strat into Vox AC15-C1 with Celestion Greenback 12" speaker. Clean and dirty signals. Crunch: GFS Brownie Classic. Distortion: Boss Hyper Metal.

Mics:
- Sennheiser e609 (original black version)
- Audix i5
- Shure SM57 (genuine)
- Shure SM57 (fake)

Preamp/Converters: Echo AudioFire Pre8
Re-amp: Radial Pro RMP

No eq or compression on guitar takes. The only signal processing was some noise gate to get rid of the noise coming from the amp, also fades in/out and created a stereo image since most guitars are used like this in similar musical contexts.

Mic Shootout: e609 black, i5, SM57 & fake SM57 on guitar amp - YouTube

If you want the uncompressed files just tell me here and I'll try to upload them, however if you watch this video in HD know it won't make a critic difference at all for this comparison's purposes.

Have fun!

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the video is not working for me. Was it taken down?

edit: I'm assuming the video is this one?
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the video is not working for me. Was it taken down?

edit: I'm assuming the video is this one?
I'm assuming that's the link also.

To the original poster: Thanks for this. I had never heard the Sennheiser. Makes clean tones very full sounding. I liked it for the crunchy stuff as well. Liked it for everything but the metal stuff.

I am not familiar with where the AC15's speaker. Why did you place the Sennheiser where you did?
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Ive got a Senn 906 and a 57, find that the 906 gives me nice clear tracks with good tone and definition and very little placement issues. The 57 gives you a wider variety of sounds bc its more sensitive to placement and angle and can sound great but can also be more hit or miss with the tones captured.

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Thank you for telling me, I didn't notice the problem when posted! Now it's edited.

I'm glad you liked the video.

To me the SM57 has the most balanced tone in near every context. As far as I know, the e609 silver is a little thinner sounding than this, the original one, all black. Also different from the e906 (which I like a lot too). My AC15 has only one speaker (12" Greenback), so I placed each mic in the same position, between the center and the edge of the speaker cone. All of them are like 2 mm from the cloth.
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My 906 is definitely nice and meaty in the low mids. So much so that I place it off axis at times to thin it out a little
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My 906 is definitely nice and meaty in the low mids. So much so that I place it off axis at times to thin it out a little
Do you really get to cut lows when placing the mic off axis? In my experience, placing the mic off axis gives you less highs. For getting a thinner sound I would rather move the mic back a few inches, avoiding the proximity effect.
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Do you really get to cut lows when placing the mic off axis? In my experience, placing the mic off axis gives you less highs. For getting a thinner sound I would rather move the mic back a few inches, avoiding the proximity effect.
In my situation (inside a speaker ISO cab) moving the mic back created what sounded like an out of phase tone. There is no way it could be obviously but that's what I was hearing. Did that position cut a lot of bass? To be honest I didn't really pay much attention to that in the comparison. I was focused on how the phasey-esque sound was gone and I like what I was hearing. So, you may be right but I liked what I was hearing so I called it good. Generally speaking though going off axis with a mic cuts the low end a bit so I may have made an incorrect assumption
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I much preferred the e609 and 57 to the other two, they had a much more full/fat sound to me. I personally thought the e609 and 57 were neck and neck with clean tones, but the 57 was much nicer for the overdriven and metal tones.

The i5 and the fake were extremely thin sounding to me. This video made me much happier about trading my i5 off.
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This video made me much happier about trading my i5 off.
I'm glad the video helped somebody, LOL. But... have you ever tried the i5 on snare? It's perhaps be the best mic for recording most snare drums out there.

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I'm glad the video helped somebody, LOL. But... have you ever tried the i5 on snare? It's perhaps be the best mic for recording most snare drums out there.

Cheers!
I did use the i5 on snare once before, and I was very pleased with the results. However, 90% of the recordings I do are getting ideas down for my songs to bring into big boy studios, or demos and EPs for singer/songwriters. So the i5 got traded with some other stuff towards a Neumann TLM 103, which I use significantly more. If I ever needed one, I have a good friend with a nice mic cabinet.
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Thanks for this! Time to get a e609, I also have an ac15 and ac30.
The ac15 is always too thin...

by the way, how come your ac15 is red??
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Thanks for this! Time to get a e609
Consider spending a bit more & getting the e906
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Consider spending a bit more & getting the e906
Agreed. I have both and the 609 never gets used if the 906 is available..
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Thanks for this! Time to get a e609, I also have an ac15 and ac30.
The ac15 is always too thin...

by the way, how come your ac15 is red??
Keep in mind the current model is an e609 silver, definitely different from the black 609 in this demo. I have the original black 609 and a 906 and I much prefer them both over the 609 silver.
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alright... 906!
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Thanks for this! Time to get a e609, I also have an ac15 and ac30.
The ac15 is always too thin...

by the way, how come your ac15 is red??
It was a limited edition of 1000 AC15's they did like 2 years ago or so.

Sorry about the sound, it's not the greatest tone I can get with my reamp, but it still works for the mics comparison. In the end of the video I put a little excerpt of the metal riff recorded properly, with room mic and 2 more close takes per channel, to me that doesn't sound thin. But you have an AC15, so you know the amp. I love it.
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Keep in mind the current model is an e609 silver, definitely different from the black 609 in this demo. I have the original black 609 and a 906 and I much prefer them both over the 609 silver.
Yeah, this one has both sides painted black. It sounds bigger than the half silver.
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Here's a video demonstrating various mics on guitar amp with high gain.

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