Blind Summing Shootout - Slate VCC 4K ITB vs ITB vs 32 Ch SSL Analog Summing Box

[ritepathstudios]

1 ssl
2 itb
3 vcc

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[svandewater]

1. Ssl
2. Itb
3. Vcc

[jeronimo]

1 itb
2 ssl
3 vcc

[Neal]

1. SSL
2. VCC
3. ITB

Please send me answer - great post! Thanks.

[lipa]

Hello everyone! It's my first post on gearslutz! Wow.. That is something for me since I've been reading this forum for about 4 years.. and haven't found a single thing I could ask that hasn't been already answered.. I love this forum! anyway.. I'm gonna try though it's been a very quick listen on a 50$ sennheiser headphones..

1 itb 2D
2 ssl 3D
3 vcc 2D with nice sslish tone

awaiting PM

[Neal]

I a/b a track for my 14 year old son and asked him which he like not telling him which was ITB and VCC. He picked the VCC as sounding better. I asked him why he liked it better - he said "It sounded like a real singer and guitar - the other track just sounded like sounds."

I was not even driving it, drive was at 0.

[carlosedp]

I`m no experienced on this so the differences are not too big to my untrained ears.

I like the 3rd more, as I feel it more airy.. so if I would take a guess I would go:

1. VCC
2. ITB
3. SSL

[fretfingers]

1. VCC
2. ITB
3. SSL - This was my fav so I just assumed ssl.

PM me please?

[nickelironsteel]

1. Ssl
2. Itb
3. Vcc

[nickelironsteel]

its been months, roll the results!

[anguswoodhead]

Originally Posted by nickelironsteel

its been months, roll the results!

Everyone who has posted a 'guess' I have pm'ed the answers to.
If people can't be bothered posting their guess then they can just ask me to pm them the results and I will.

[lordnielson]

1. SSL
2. ITB
3. VCC

I slightly prefer #1.

[OliverV]

My guess: #2 is ITB (my least favourite) - as for the other 2, I honestly don't know which is which but I prefer #1, and am hoping that's the Slate. Please let me know though. Cheers!

[brotastic]

1 - ITB
2 - SSL
3 - VCC

2 - seems the most 3D sounding to me.

3 - The bass and snare seem more full and rich....so I want to say that this is the VCC maybe the extra harmonics from the distortion is helping with that.

1 - seems the least 3D ....a little more flatter of the three.

I am a hobbyest monitoring through ADAM A7X through a apogee ensemble in my bedroom. So, I don't know if my opinions are heard through the most clinical setup.

Everyone seems to have different opinions about which one was which. That kind of tells me that there is only a little bit of difference through summing. 5 to 10 %

number two seems the most drastic of the two. I can hear a special mojo coming from that track. All well, I guess I will wait for a reply from Anguswoodhead to see how far off I was...hahahaha.

Thanks for doing this Angus.

[ndarjeelingmusic]

Hi,
it's my first post too:

1) ITB
2) VCC
3) SSL

I don't know which is what but prefer 3, 2 and Last 1

Thanks Angus

Please PM me !?!!

Cheers

[BLACKDORIS]

This is an interesting test.

A great example of how huge a variation can occur from person to person (for numerous reasons).

I'm a professional musician and have a small home studio. I have a basic rec set up and mainly work ITB.

Gave these a quick listen through some beyer dt990s.

IMH(and novice)O - I liked the vibe that #3 created.

Sounded very natural to me (as you'd imagine a live gig to sound) but felt like a quality recording, almost understated production wise (if that makes sense).

I'm guessing from some of the other posts that this would make it the VCC.

#2 to me sounded the most contemporary and a little flat/2 dimensional. I'm guessing ITB.

#1 had the least decernable 'production' quality/sound to me. I'm guessing this is the SSL.

[ghostwriter]

I preferred #1 by a mile.
Very open with a lot of depth and width. The low end is tight and much fuller in a more natural way than either 2 or 3.
#1 is the SSL, #2 is ITB and #3 is VCC.

The Ghost

[michaeldrums]

my guess is

1. ITB
2. OTB
3. VCC

pm me please!

[prontold]

3 sounded the best to me

I'm going to guess that #1 was ITB
#2 was Slate (seemed kind of exaggerated)
#3 was analog

[cherrymusic]

My order I liked:

3>Had a nice punch and good 3d
1>Smooth sound, good presentation of what the track is
2>Seemed the most 2D but an honest mix

Audition:
M Audio IE40-3 driver High Definition In Ear Reference Earphones

In the morning I will listen on my Yammy NS-10's and HS50/HS10

PM me!

[Neal]

Originally Posted by cherrymusic

My order I liked:

3>Had a nice punch and good 3d
1>Smooth sound, good presentation of what the track is
2>Seemed the most 2D but an honest mix

Audition:
M Audio IE40-3 driver High Definition In Ear Reference Earphones

In the morning I will listen on my Yammy NS-10's and HS50/HS10

PM me!

I have NS-10's and HS10 too. Love them both to death!

[matholiver]

1 - ssl
2 - itb
3 - vcc

[redredredredhair]

Can you please PM me the results? Thanks

[steveschizoid]

Originally Posted by cyborgssc

Did you guys ever play Mastermind as a kid?

:o)

Great game.

1. SSL
2. ITB
3. VCC

1. nice
2. kinda flat, doesn't hold together as well.
3. also nice, slightly hyped low mids

[drt]

1. Ssl
2. Itb
3. Vcc

[Mixtree Audio]

1. Ssl
2. Vcc
3. Itb

[area51]

for me

1) ITB
2) VCC
3) SSL

[CeretoneAudio]

1 ssl
2 itb
3 vcc

[cherrymusic]

One thing that I thing has not been discussed or put in the front is the fact that the subject tracks seemed to have been recorded very well.

Also I think where analog summing/console and VCC would really demonstrate its superiority over ITB is a mix that contains mostly computer generated sounds (i.e. Virtual Instruments) OP I don't know if you have a track that is Virtual created but I would love to hear a Part II of this thread under the circumstances I suggest.

Great thread!

[anguswoodhead]

Originally Posted by cherrymusic

One thing that I thing has not been discussed or put in the front is the fact that the subject tracks seemed to have been recorded very well.

Also I think where analog summing/console and VCC would really demonstrate its superiority over ITB is a mix that contains mostly computer generated sounds (i.e. Virtual Instruments) OP I don't know if you have a track that is Virtual created but I would love to hear a Part II of this thread under the circumstances I suggest.

Great thread!

Cool idea - I'll see if I can throw something together in the next month or so.