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Slate VCC / NLS summing comparison (sound files with without to A/B)
View Poll Results: In reference to audio files posted, Summing plugs make a big difference
Yes I can audibly hear a difference in a blind A/B shootout all the time 1 20.00%
More 'feel' than sound 3 60.00%
No 1 20.00%
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Old 22nd April 2012   #1
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Slate VCC / NLS summing comparison (sound files with without to A/B)

Can you really hear a big difference or is it negligible? Summing plugs seem to be the new 'thing' in the plug in world. Personally, i find only such a small difference in the sound but it's more 'feel' than anything. Thought it might be a good conversation on these types of plugs - do you feel they are worth the investment? Would just a little careful harmonic distortion on the master give something similar to those who can't afford these plugs? For me, I'm not sold listening to the difference.

Here Sound on Sound posted some of slate's VCC
Slate VCC | Audio Files

If you're on a Mac, download this ABXer
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Here's what SOS say about the sound files

Slate’s VCC shines most of all on a high?quality multitracked rock recording, so for audio examples that would do it justice, I turned to SOS’s nearest professional recording studio, Half?Ton Studios in Milton, near Cambridge. Studio owner and drummer extraordinaire Bugs generously offered us the multitrack of ‘Empty Pockets’, by his own band Esqueleto, recorded by himself and Matty Moon. The band has a conventional line?up of two electric guitars, bass, drums and male vocals, augmented on this song by several shaky eggs and some backing vocals. All the guitars were double miked with SM57s and AKG C414s, and there was a total of 11 drum tracks.

For the audio examples, I created a very basic static mix in Pro Tools 9 with no automation and little processing apart from standard EQ, reverb and compression, all from the stock plug?ins in Pro Tools. I used VCC on every channel, on the master fader, and on every aux that was being used as a group channel. I mixed into it on the API setting, then bounced the same mix with all VCC plug?ins switched in turn to the Neve, Trident and SSL settings. Because the tracks were recorded fairly hot to start with, the effect is quite noticeable even at the default settings with Drive set to 0dB; to show how it performs when hit very hard, I also bounced each mix with Drive set to +6dB. Finally, I imported the bounce of my original API mix, phase?reversed it, and tried to match it as closely as possible without using VCC — no easy task! You can audition the examples
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It took me awhile to understand the difference that this plug in made. I spend a lot of time doing A/B comparisons. Sometimes I did them blindfolded so I couldn't be thrown off by the visual aspect lol.

I can say that although the difference is slight, It is definitely worth trying! Its not a go to solution that is going to make your mixes instantly amazing, however, it does add some nice harmonic features to the sound that is very pleasing. Once you start using it, you won't go back.

I believe they offer a cheap starter RC Tube channel/master buss that is like $50 if you wanted to try it.

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