Originally Posted by Bcsteene
....but add drums, bass, violin, cello, accordion, backups, and a piano, and they fall apart, it sounds like sludge no matter what you do...
Words of ultimate truth here
After spending countless hours in front of countless mixing solutions it became apparent why really pristine mixing console with 32 ch, 8 busses and 32 ch of EQ or compression easily and purposefully costs 100-120 k (talking about Rupert Neve 5088).
I still use several higher end summing boxes, Mackie Onyx, Speck 6ch line mixer for various submixing, submonitoring and similar purposes when main console is no point to turn on.
But, when pushing 32 ch via well populated rack of good processing and expect to get liveliness, resolution, ssense of space and stage in the mix, the one needs serious design very seriously implemented.
From 32 ch + busses/groups truth start to speak.
Saying all that, I like Onyx very much in daily's work with synths and pre-production. Well spent 1/4th of good console's one channel price.