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Thread Starter | StudioLive vs. Behringer vs. ITB Synth Tracking and Mixing Battle Royale!
I posted this in EMI&EMP as well, but think it might be appropriate here as well. Files for this test can be found here: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/6340666-post1.html and the .wav files are here: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/6340675-post2.html Let me preface this by saying that this is NOT in any way a scientific test! I recently picked up a Behringer MX3282A for a friend of mine whose mixer spontaneously combusted on him and it's been having to live in my studio until he comes down here from the middle-of-nowhere to pick it up. I've recently been on the fence about jumping ship on my PreSonus StudioLives to go back to analog mixing OTB or at least going back to ITB and getting a summing mixer to slap on the back end of my DAW. So I figured that since I've got this Behry on my hands anyway, why not put together a throwaway track and mix it on the SL's, the MX3282A, and ITB in turn to see how it turns out? Synth duties are as such: Sequencing - Akai MPC1000 Drums - Drumstation w/Kick sent to its own channel for separate processing Percussion Loops - Akai MPC (one output sent through Ensoniq DP/4) Bass - Dot Com Modular Acidish Lead - TBX-303 (ran though a DOD TEC4X) Distorted Lead - Spectral Audio Syntrack (sent through DP/4) Trance Lead - Akai AX80 (sent through DP/4) The idea with the first line of tests was to put them all on equal ground, so for the first part, we're just using gain faders and EQ's. Test 1 is a mixdown from the StudioLives as the synths were being recorded (essentially a live mix.) EQ's and reverbs come from the StudioLives themselves. Test 2 is a mixdown from the StudioLives where the tracks were sent back to the SL's for mixing, but with none of the settings changed from Test 1. This essentially makes for a test of the DA conversion on the SL's as there are questions about the quality of the DA converters on the SL's. Test 3 is the Behringer Mixdown. The EQ's are from the MX3282A and the aux send reverb is a Peavey AddVerb II. The master outs were recorded to the computron from a stereo channel on the SL's. Test 4 is where the individual tracks had been recorded in from the inputs of the SL's and then mixed ITB in Reaper. Channel EQ's were handled by SmartElectronix's Nyquist EQ and the send/return reverb is DaSample's GlaceVerb. After this came the fun part where I went back and abused the functions unique to the SL's and ITB. So for Test 5, I went up to the SL's and entered A, B, A, C, A, B, B, Scorpion screamed "GET OVER HERE!" and as the tracks got fed from the DAW back to the SL's, the channel compressors were engaged, the master bus compressor was engaged, and the master bus EQ was engaged. At this point, I'd like to stop and apologize for the mixing being kinda crappy on Test 5. Like I said at the beginning, this is NOT a scientific test at all! Finally, Test 6 is where I got on Reaper, entered Down, Up, Left, Left, A, Right, Down, and Dan Forden popped up out of nowhere to yell "Toasty!!!" Here, Nyquist was in play, Blockfish was used for compression on a few channels, ReaComp (Reaper's compressor) was put on the bassline for some of that awesome SIDECHAIN!!!, and GMulti was put on the master bus for multiband compression. And in the post after this, I'll have some snippets of the tracks in 16-bit 44.1khz .wav files if you'd prefer to put the files under extra scrutiny without dealing with mp3 compression. So what does everybody here think? DISCUSS!!! |
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Mix #1, the live mix, sounded best to me through my headphones. Mostly because the reverbs were shorter. The overall sound is better too in my opinion.
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