A) Relab Lx480 Default patch
B) EOS Large Hall
C) Relab (again) with Lexicon's PCM matched settings
D) Lexicon PCM Native Random Hall algo with large hall preset
E) Aether 1.5 Hall 2
F) Space Designer with Todd AO IR (tail only)
a few tech notes:
All reverbs on the same aux so same amount going into the reverb. i guess each reverb inputs volume and output varies.
all reverb 100% wet on the bus.
a few personal notes:
the purpose of this tests was to take it from a consumer point of view and see what all these reverbs offer if u sat in a testing station and intansiated each one with a large hall type setting. the only one i tried to match closely with the settings was the pcm and the relab which i was really interested but i also added the default patch on the relab.
no, i did not try to match all reverbs to have the same settings mainly because i just wnted a large hall for a lush reverb and rely on the developers/progrmmers choices for it, because thats what they are offering. and yes, ones meduim could be someones large... i still kept it similarly lush. and from the playing on those intruments the idea was from a quick listen as u would in a quick testing situation like at namm (but w/o the extreme background noise)
you are most welcome to download each reverbs demo at the same time, set it up, play something you think would be ideal, match al the settings exactly, see that every little aspect is the same and that each dB is perfect. and even if you matched the numbers on screen, internally the programming might have different results, like i said above; i sent the same amount of signal to each verb, still the output was different. then Upload the mp3 and wav files to host sites, post it nice a punlic forum where everyone just tried to argue just arguing and never can please everyone....
better yet, get also the real/hardware versions of the plugins, record them thorugh a good and very clean line of equipment (ad/da)so there is also no problem that can arise to spoil the exactness of it. then you can show the different the tail is or not in a near perfect setting.
my informal approach; "hey i have some time so lets try all these lush reverbs and see how they compare."
so thats the disclaimer.. it never was to be the perfect setting approach as, like many of you, believe each reverb hs its magic and own application.
i just trying out algo verbs cause i like to get one of these.
plus u can still EQ and further process the reverb to make it sound better, and even more important; better within your track. so even if u just select a preset, its just a srating point... the point from which i took these tests.
and true that each reverb will yeold different results on a finshed mixed track.
like the pre amp shoot out tests, there is a lot that makes up a track. the source, room, mic ,processing equipment, mixing, mastering, marketing, distribution, reception and everything i between
but the difference between pres was not as big as mics and mics with source, placement and mixing. i just try to close my eyes and judge by how it sounds in that particular moment in time and try not think that because its this brand is better or worst, or poeple like this or not.
there is no better or worst, its all subjective. ones best is anothers' blah. i based my conclusions on the how they stand on thier own and not labeling as better or worst.
my own conclusions;
i realy liked the relab xl480. very lush and nice sounding, specially with tonys presets. with a little EQ and tweaking, id be worry if i where the lexicon team.
id still want to listen to a comparison with the 480L
in a non comparing way, i liked a lot the lx480 on its own. very inspiring when i played different instruments.
i think you are a complete fool if you are going to spend THAT much in the Lexicon PCM. that its just stoooopid expensive and i think their marketing dept try to pull the "high price=better" tactic.
dont get me wrong, its good... but not a grand more than the competition. there is also a long thread about the aether vs pcm.
i should of added the LXP series and see how are those. maybe ill added later. just so folks kinda listen to them.
the eos is pretty little treasure. its bit thin sounding than the others but it kept up. for the price... great! simple yet full of nice tricks.
the aether has a different feel than the others, very nice still. its like a different flavor. still lush. it has a lot of settings that can be tweaked. way too many imo but this can affect the sound tremendously so def try the demo.
just try the demo of the aether , actuallt on all of them of course and do your own tweaking, like trying a car.. its also about the feeling you get with each one.
so hope it helps. mainly in the part that marketing and visual factors have a big influence in our desicions. a blind test where you have a $50 plugin verssus a $1000+ plugin can give an idea if realy a grand will make such a big difference, or that a plugin with a vintage look will be better than one with a generic front. at the end is all about what you hear, not what you see or what other/masses seem to be doing. i studied marketing and now how much BS is out there and how much folks buy into it.
so there, for those who agree good, for the haters.. i dont really care. free public forum for anyone to get thier own conclusions. cheers