Native reverbs plugins Shoot-Out thread

[poshook]

Thanks Johan Bejerholm from World Studios for this dry audio sample which can be used for this shoot-out.

Here it is! The eagerly awaited 24 bit Wav dry file.

http://www.worldstudios.se/DryFileWorldStudios.wav


Here is processed sample using PCM96 which could be the reference point. anyone here can try to reach this result using any native algorithmic reverb plugin and post it here with short description. Processed file could be in mp3 320kb/s format

[Shy]

@ Johan: please post a wav or aiff file.

[MMski]

Great thread! I'm gonna drive myself crazy trying this

[skills]

wavs?

reverb tails die with mp3/compressed formats.

didnt listen yet, not at home. figured I'd save the effort of using the mp3 later :-)

thanks!

[Warp69]

Originally Posted by poshook

Here are processed sample using PCM96 which could be the reference point. anyone here can try to reach this result using any native reverb algorithmic plugin and post it here with short description

"Blend20" - what does that mean? Wet 20% and Dry 80%?

[poshook]

Originally Posted by skills

wavs?

reverb tails die with mp3/compressed formats.

didnt listen yet, not at home. figured I'd save the effort of using the mp3 later :-)

thanks!

wav will be tomorrow!!!!! be patient please!!

[sparqee]

Here's a stock Medium Concert Hall from Cubase 5 Reverence:

http://vid.firepixie.com/songs/Cubas...ence_MHall.wav

Didn't tweak anything other than to pull the mix down to 12% wet.

[poshook]

Originally Posted by sparqee

Here's a stock Medium Concert Hall from Cubase 5 Reverence:

http://vid.firepixie.com/songs/Cubas...ence_MHall.wav

Didn't tweak anything other than to pull the mix down to 12% wet.

as you can read in 3th post in these thread, only pure algorithmic reverbs are allowed for processing. Reverence is convolution reverb

[poshook]

Originally Posted by skills

wavs?

reverb tails die with mp3/compressed formats.

didnt listen yet, not at home. figured I'd save the effort of using the mp3 later :-)

thanks!

the original dry sample will be in wav format tomorrow, for processed file you can use 320kb/s MP3 format

[sparqee]

Originally Posted by poshook

as you can read in 3th post in these thread, only pure algorithmic reverbs are allowed for processing. Reverence is convolution reverb

My bad. I've been using convolution almost exclusively for so long I totally missed that element of the comparison. Since the only other verb I currently use is UAD I'll bow out now.

[adpz]

Brilliant thread idea. I'll post an example using my Eventide HD software tonight.

[adpz]

Here's the dry snip with Eventide Anthology TDM reverb using Hall at 2.2 sec with 10ms pre-delay. The second one is just stock D-Verb TDM with a 1.7 sec Med Hall with a matching 10ms on the pre-delay. Both FX were 100% wet; I adjusted "to taste" via the aux input faders.

[everythinglouder]

Here's Audio Damage Eos. I just got it today.

'Superhall' setting, 12ms pre-delay, 1.7s decay, various other settings.

[World Studios]

Here it is! The eagerly awaited 24 bit Wav dry file. (drumroll)

http://www.worldstudios.se/DryFileWorldStudios.wav

[World Studios]

Originally Posted by Warp69

"Blend20" - what does that mean? Wet 20% and Dry 80%?

Yes, which is obvious when you hear it...

[World Studios]

Here another, a bit over the top, file. "Large vocal hall" is a 3.00 sec hall. Blend is 30% to let y´all hear the Hardware PCM 96 a bit more. Note the Smooooth decay.


Worldstudios, Hard Disk Recording Studio, SwedenLargeVocalHallPreset105Blend30.wav

Predelay 20ms
RevTime 3 sec
Rev out freq 6500 Hz
Diffusion 14%
RevHiCut 4500 Hz
Bass RT 2.25x
EarlyReflections level -3 dB

[World Studios]

Originally Posted by everythinglouder

Here's Audio Damage Eos. I just got it today.

'Superhall' setting, 12ms pre-delay, 1.7s decay, various other settings.

Sounds nice, but more "cold" and more obvious. It is brighter... Less dense.

[poshook]

Originally Posted by World Studios

Sounds nice, but more "cold" and more obvious. It is brighter... Less dense.

exactly, colder and flatter. maybe different settings could help

[everythinglouder]

Originally Posted by poshook

exactly, colder and flatter. maybe different settings could help

Yeah, still learning it. It's got its strengths and weaknesses. It certainly lacks the early reflections of the Lex. But after all, it's going up against a frickin' Lexicon PCM96!

Where can I post the .wav? GS only allows up to 6 megs.

[World Studios]

Originally Posted by everythinglouder

Yeah, still learning it. It's got its strengths and weaknesses. It certainly lacks the early reflections of the Lex.

Where can I post the .wav? GS only allows up to 6 megs.

Sendspace?

[everythinglouder]

Here's the Eos again. Slightly different settings. Mainly a smaller 'size,' tad longer decay, lower low-pass frequency. No pre-delay.

.wav this time.

Download EosMedHallvers2.wav from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way

[poshook]

2C Aether Hall1 tweaked almost all parameters

[nativeaudio]

Kind of awkward to compare reverbs using the mp3 format, but here's a file with two different reverbs, using not really comparable settings. I always exaggerate the reverb levels when I check reverbs, so I've done this here as well. The file is normalized.

[poshook]

Originally Posted by nativeaudio

Kind of awkward to compare reverbs using the mp3 format, but here's a file with two different reverbs, using not really comparable settings. I always exaggerate the reverb levels when I check reverbs, so I've done this here as well. The file is normalized.

what reverbs?

[poshook]

Originally Posted by World Studios

Here another, a bit over the top, file. "Large vocal hall" is a 3.00 sec hall. Blend is 30% to let y´all hear the Hardware PCM 96 a bit more. Note the Smooooth decay.


Worldstudios, Hard Disk Recording Studio, SwedenLargeVocalHallPreset105Blend30.wav

Predelay 20ms
RevTime 3 sec
Rev out freq 6500 Hz
Diffusion 14%
RevHiCut 4500 Hz
Bass RT 2.25x
EarlyReflections level -3 dB

could you send correct link?

thnx

[The Listener]

I hope Virsyn REFLECT 2 with its hybrid technology applies... It takes early reflections from the IR and synthesizes all the rest... I imported Lexicon 480 medium hall IR and quickly tweaked it - set more early reflections than tail as sounds your example and roughly adjusted size, modulation, reverberation time, damping, predelay, diffusion, etc.

Another one is from Lex200 hall IR with the same "algoritmic" settings in Reflect as for the 480 example and another one is TC Fabrik R rough approximation made from its Hall algorithm.

Nice "test", I will probably buy the native version of Lexicon one day, but I can manage with Reflect for now - oh, btw - they have the end of the year discount now. You can get this nice reverb for 129eu, now. (no, I don't work for them, I just really like this plug-in reverb)

[Shy]

Originally Posted by poshook

could you send correct link?

thnx

LargeVocalHallPreset105Blend30

[World Studios]

Originally Posted by Shy

LargeVocalHallPreset105Blend30

Ooops, well you hackers out there got it sorted! Thanks!

[Warp69]

Originally Posted by World Studios

Yes, which is obvious when you hear it...

Well - i agree, but I had to asked since it's completely impossible to replicate that excessive coloration of the original sound (and you only have a 20% wet signal) with ANY of the reverbs I have.

I would imagine that the preset used is based on the new Hall algorithm?

[Nahuel]

Uhbik-A, what you guys think?