U67. vs Flea 47 vs Bruce Swedien No.1

Joram · 21st November 2009

Here some sound files of a male vocal for comparison: a Flea 47, Neumann U67 and Martin Kantola's Swedien No.1

chain: Neve 1073 > Urei 1178 (3 dB GR max) > Focusrite AD > PTHD

Joram · 21st November 2009

Swedien mic

Joram · 21st November 2009

Chris900 · 21st November 2009

Thanks, Joram, for taking the time to do this shootout.

My preferences are:
1. U67 sounds incredibly smooth
2. Flea 47 great mid range bump but somewhat thinner than the U67
3. Swedien No. 1 Too bright for my taste

It would be really interesting the hear the Flea against a real U47. If I don't recall incorrectly, didn't you have the opportunity to do such a shootout? It would be great if you could post a comparison between the two.

Thanks once again for the shootout!
/Chris

Joram · 21st November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris900

It would be really interesting the hear the Flea against a real U47. If I don't recall incorrectly, didn't you have the opportunity to do such a shootout? It would be great if you could post a comparison between the two.

Unfortunately we did not have to time to record a shootout between the Flea and the real thing with the same singer. We received our U47 on the last day of the workshop. However we did record quite a lot during the vocal workshop with James Lugo and I do have a comparison between a C12, U47 and U67. I will go through the recorded material again. Keep you updated.

Chris900 · 21st November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joram

Unfortunately we did not have to time to record a shootout between the Flea and the real thing with the same singer. We received our U47 on the last day of the workshop. However we did record quite a lot during the vocal workshop with James Lugo and I do have a comparison between a C12, U47 and U67. I will go through the recorded material again. Keep you updated.

I'd really appreciate that

/Chris

didier.brest · 21st November 2009

The Swedien has bump around 6 kHz, about 5 dB, with respect to both other ones. The FLEA sounds smoother to me than the U67.

badboymusic · 23rd November 2009

U67 gets my vote.

Storyville · 23rd November 2009

It was a close one for me - they're all good. The flea and the swedien both a forward push - the swedien seemed to be forward the most, the flea a close second. The swedien felt a little bit hyped up to me. The flea, I felt was a nice blend of forwardness but without sounding hyped - I think it would fair better in the mix than the others.

so Flea 47 is #1 for me.

I felt the u67 was the most natural sounding, and for a sparser mix, I might want that. So 67, would be #2.

Swedien comes in 3 by default.

But they all sound excellent.

DONNX · 23rd November 2009

"NOI mann!" never fails... Just think its perfect compared to the rest.

Swedien sounded hot, on the hyped bright side. (no thank you) May work well on Cymbals and overheads.
Flea 47 seem to have a slight mid dip or scoop.

Why can't they make Neumann's like they did in the old days.

What a mic!

Thanks for the post! Wanted to hear that Flea 47 for a while now.

Resis · 25th November 2009

U67 was my favourite, followed by the flea and the swedien.

gunjabeans · 27th November 2009

The flea left the impression of delicate softness in me. It may have just been the performances but, the other two seemed to have more wetness from the singers mouth. Not a fan of those sounds.

MarkyGoldstein · 21st January 2010

I like the Swedien

Gaorinath · 31st January 2011

Thank you for the samples!
Is this a Vintage original U67 or a new one?
Thanks!

Joram · 3rd February 2011

Vintage U67

didier.brest · 3rd February 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaorinath

Thank you for the samples!
Is this a Vintage original U67 or a new one?

What is a new U67 ?

geareyes · 3rd February 2011

The small number of reissues Neumann made in the 90's.

Mike

didier.brest · 3rd February 2011

Are these new ones expected sounding different from the 'vintage' ones ?

geareyes · 4th February 2011

No, this was a reissue, not a clone.Neumann used NOS parts they had in their stocks to do a small run of them.

Mike

23rd November 2009	#9
Storyville Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Philly/New York Posts: 4,746	It was a close one for me - they're all good. The flea and the swedien both a forward push - the swedien seemed to be forward the most, the flea a close second. The swedien felt a little bit hyped up to me. The flea, I felt was a nice blend of forwardness but without sounding hyped - I think it would fair better in the mix than the others. so Flea 47 is #1 for me. I felt the u67 was the most natural sounding, and for a sparser mix, I might want that. So 67, would be #2. Swedien comes in 3 by default. But they all sound excellent. __________________ I have a new website - check it out: www.Weiss-Sound.com Member of The Pyramid Recording Collective. Grammy Nominations, Platinum & Gold credits, yeah... we got that.

27th November 2009	#12
gunjabeans Gear interested Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 3	Loved the Flea The flea left the impression of delicate softness in me. It may have just been the performances but, the other two seemed to have more wetness from the singers mouth. Not a fan of those sounds.

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Chris900 Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 266	Thanks, Joram, for taking the time to do this shootout. My preferences are: 1. U67 sounds incredibly smooth 2. Flea 47 great mid range bump but somewhat thinner than the U67 3. Swedien No. 1 Too bright for my taste It would be really interesting the hear the Flea against a real U47. If I don't recall incorrectly, didn't you have the opportunity to do such a shootout? It would be great if you could post a comparison between the two. Thanks once again for the shootout! /Chris

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didier.brest Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,653	The Swedien has bump around 6 kHz, about 5 dB, with respect to both other ones. The FLEA sounds smoother to me than the U67.

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