Wunder CM7 vs Beesneez T1 vs U87i vs Beesneez James

[Piedpiper]

I'll take a gander that they are:

1. CM7 - very nice, a bit Hi Fi.
2. 87 - thinner and grittier.
3. James - midrangey, a bit smoothed over and two dimensional comparatively.
4. T1 - in the direction of the James from #1, but more transparent, with more depth than the James.

YOU picked the one YOU liked. I picked 1, with 4 just behind it.

Thanks for the opportunity to hear them. I await the revelation.

[anguswoodhead]

Originally Posted by Piedpiper

I'll take a gander that they are:

1. CM7 - very nice, a bit Hi Fi.
2. 87 - thinner and grittier.
3. James - midrangey, a bit smoothed over and two dimensional comparatively.
4. T1 - in the direction of the James from #1, but more transparent, with more depth than the James.

YOU picked the one YOU liked. I picked 1, with 4 just behind it.

Hummmm - not a bad guess mate.
You got 2 out of 4 correct. (but which 2 - LOL)

[Piedpiper]

Thanks for the tweak. BTW, I only listened to Kel. Can't wait.

[winzer]

here an "optimization" of piedpipers guess

1 CM7
2 U87
3 T1
4 James

i thought 3 was more transparent and 4 a bit warmer...
only 2 i didn´t like so much...

nice test!

[anguswoodhead]

Originally Posted by winzer

nice test!

Thankyou.

[Aearth]

Originally Posted by badboymusic

I'm just sayin', unless you want to be run off the island.

It's a big island.


nIC

[mics]

Originally Posted by Aearth

It's a big island.


nIC

hahahaha

I sure is!

[sniperschool]

what am i missing?

if BASLOTTO guessed

1. james
2. wunder
3. T1
4. U87

and got one right

and PIEDPIPER guessed

1. wunder
2. U87
3. james
4. T1

and got 2 right then how come none of their answers matched?

[mics]

Originally Posted by sniperschool

what am i missing?

if BASLOTTO guessed

1. james
2. wunder
3. T1
4. U87

and got one right

and PIEDPIPER guessed

1. wunder
2. U87
3. james
4. T1

and got 2 right then how come none of their answers matched?

You need to use the process of elimination, all it means is that neither of them got the same one right!!!!

2 people guessing, 4 possibles, 4 choices. 4 x 4 = 16 possibles x 2 = 32 possibles. between them they have chosen 3 from 32.

Can you see now?

cheers.

[sniperschool]

how did i manage to confuse myself so badly

[anguswoodhead]

So - anyone else care to have a guess before I 'reveal'?

[mingar]

I Guess:
1. Wunder
2. T1
3. James
4. U87

Michael Ingvarson

[badboymusic]

Originally Posted by mics

You need to use the process of elimination, all it means is that neither of them got the same one right!!!!

2 people guessing, 4 possibles, 4 choices. 4 x 4 = 16 possibles x 2 = 32 possibles. between them they have chosen 3 from 32.

Can you see now?

Of course, it's just simple combinatorics. Why didn't I see that before?
In that case, I would like to change my guess to: They were all recorded at the same time.

[MadGuitrst]

Originally Posted by anguswoodhead

Hummmm - not a bad guess mate.
You got 2 out of 4 correct. (but which 2 - LOL)

You got the CM7 and the Jame right, the T1 and the U87 you got backwards.......book it.

[anguswoodhead]

Originally Posted by mingar

I Guess:
1. Wunder
2. T1
3. James
4. U87

Michael Ingvarson

Hi Michael - you got 1 right.
Hee hee - I love this.
Eventually someone will 'do the maths' and work it out - LOL.

[winzer]

ok.... second try

1 u87
2 cm7
3 james
4 t1

math done corretly?

[anguswoodhead]

Originally Posted by winzer

ok.... second try

1 u87
2 cm7
3 james
4 t1

math done corretly?

You'll just have to wait and see.
Use your ears - LOL.

[mingar]

Ok here goes:
1 T1
2 U87
3 James
4 Wunder

Michael Ingvarson

[Piedpiper]

Originally Posted by mingar

Ok here goes:
1 T1
2 U87
3 James
4 Wunder

Michael Ingvarson

That would be my second guess as I'm totally guessing about the T1 and CM7. Especially given that I got 2 right before, those two would be the interchangeable ones for me.

[anguswoodhead]

I leave for India on Sun night for 2 weeks.
So I will post the results then (before I leave).
I'm guessing you all don't want to wait 3 weeks to find out the answers.

[sfoote]

As I do the math combinations with the three guesses we have and the number we've been told are correct in each guess, the only possible lineups that could be true are

1. U87
2. Wunder
3. James
4. T1

or

1. Wunder
2. u87
3. T1
4. James

There are no other combinations that can be correct given the hints, but not enough hints are given to be absolutely certain.

And thus, the ears. My guess (having only heard in person a Wunder from this group):

1. Wunder
2. U87
3. T1
4. James

[withintheflux]

I don't have experience with most of these mics, so I'm just guessing really. But here goes:

1- Wunder Sounds beautiful. large, broad.

2- 87? Least favorite by far

3- James (I hope its True! both because I liked it best and because I've one coming soon. I love that its darker. Sounds more natural to me. Right up my alley.)

4- T1 Sounds beautiful. large, broad.

[Piedpiper]

Originally Posted by withintheflux

I don't have experience with most of these mics, so I'm just guessing really. But here goes:

1- Wunder Sounds beautiful. large, broad.

2- 87? Least favorite by far

3- James (I hope its True! both because I liked it best and because I've one coming soon. I love that its darker. Sounds more natural to me. Right up my alley.)

4- T1 Sounds beautiful. large, broad.

Those were my guesses as well, but evidently only two were correct.

[withintheflux]

oops.

well, like you, I was guessing between the Wunder and T1, so I'll swap those choices.

[Piedpiper]

Originally Posted by withintheflux

oops.

well, like you, I was guessing between the Wunder and T1, so I'll swap those choices.

great minds...

...but evidently not quite great enough.

[Aearth]

Hmmm I think there maybe some surprises here.

nIC

[MadGuitrst]

There always is..........

[anguswoodhead]

Originally Posted by Aearth

Hmmm I think there maybe some surprises here.

nIC

[futur2]

no idea what is what. i like 1 and 4. 1 is bone-dry. would probably depend on the context which one to use. 3 sounds quite ok too. 2 is def to shrill for my taste.

[xj32]

Ok, I'll play...why not.

I am pretty sure of:

1. CM7
2. U87 (seems the most obvious to me)

For 3 and 4 I keep flip flopping depending on the source, but I like them both...I think I like 4 the best so..

3. James
4. TI (although I hope its the James, because that one I can afford).

I know others picked this line up too, but it is what I hear.

Over all this shoot out has told me 3 things:

One: If you could not make a great recording with ANY of these mics, its not the mic's fault, none of them sucked. Its like a wine tasting with $1000 bottles of wine, they are all gonna be great, but you might like one better, while you best friend likes another.
Two: I can save my money and stop worrying about getting a CM7
Three: Ben's mics and company really hold their own. Really makin' me rethink my Peluso 2247

XJ