Found: Lavry Gold AD122-96MKIII vs. Apogee AD-16x
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23rd April 2009
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I dont think this is a real test, because the mixing is different between the tracks.. The panning is so different..
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I dont think this is a real test, because the mixing is different between the tracks.. The panning is so different..
you can send/write a pritave message/email to the creator of those clips, telling what you think, asking for photos or new clips.
and RMAA loop tests, maybe its a defective unit.
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I dont think this is a real test, because the mixing is different between the tracks.. The panning is so different..

All miking , pre´s, volume settings the same, two times recorded ( I wanted to see how much a converter affects the real studio work ) . When there is the impression of different panning, it´s due to the converter. Panning is: git L, git R, Drums L + R (just OH´s in short AB) Bass Center. I put up the mic, played the tune , and then swapped the converter out and played the tune again.
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26th May 2009
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The panning is different, or the cabling is wrong. There is no way a converter affects the panning that much.

And the Lavry is much better converter, full stop. The test is flawed.
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The panning is different, or the cabling is wrong. There is no way a converter affects the panning that much.

And the Lavry is much better converter, full stop. The test is flawed.
why is much better converter ?
who told you so?
the price tag?
do you have one?

use a consumer clock from DVD/VHS combo, spdif
the wordclock does affect.
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27th May 2009
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why is much better converter ?
who told you so?
the price tag?
do you have one?

use a consumer clock from DVD/VHS combo, spdif
the wordclock does affect.
Yes I own the Lavry gold MKIII and the Prism ADA-X8. Where I use to work had the apogees and they are not in the same league. They are good for recording, but not mastering grade.

It's seems that you are the one forming opinions about converters without actually owning or hearing them yourself.
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Yes I own the Lavry gold MKIII and the Prism ADA-X8. Where I use to work had the apogees and they are not in the same league. They are good for recording, but not mastering grade.

It's seems that you are the one forming opinions about converters without actually owning or hearing them yourself.
why dont you make a converter test ?

start with software like
http://audio.rightmark.org
RMAA
then move to loop tests,
and exact recordings.
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why dont you make a converter test ?

start with software like
http://audio.rightmark.org
RMAA
then move to loop tests,
and exact recordings.
I just use the Crookwood to change converters, record them into Sequoia, then have another person do the switching so it's blind testing.
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i know it is out of topic but i wanna ask anyway.. Why i don't see the big diffrence ? Because of i use creative 2+1 speakers which is worth of 15$ ??
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i know it is out of topic but i wanna ask anyway.. Why i don't see the big diffrence ? Because of i use creative 2+1 speakers which is worth of 15$ ??
i hear the diference in laptop speakers from compaq presario v3000.
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You get a guitar comming on the right in the apogee track that doesnt appear on the other one...that to say...apogee sounds better...IMO.
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i know it is out of topic but i wanna ask anyway.. Why i don't see the big diffrence ? Because of i use creative 2+1 speakers which is worth of 15$ ??
Great post I might add!

What Davulzade said is so true..... Here we all are, bickering over the best quality equipment when the whole music gets dumbed down to an mp3 and computer speakers... hahahaha.

I love my cheap computer speakers (don't know the brand)! Playing computer games on them with the subwoofer...... I daresay the MM27's wouldn't do such a great job! hahaha
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Yes, stuff gets "dumbed down to an Mp3 on laptop speakers," but...

...all the more reason to try and make things sound better. No?
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You get a guitar comming on the right in the apogee track that doesnt appear on the other one...that to say...apogee sounds better...IMO.
Just to say it again: This is NOT 2 Times the same Track, it´s the same tune played two times , leaving everything the same but swapping the converters. I wannted to check if you can hear the difference in normal studio work. I tried hard to play the same and with the same levels. ( I stayed with the apoggees)
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Just to say it again: This is NOT 2 Times the same Track, it´s the same tune played two times , leaving everything the same but swapping the converters. I wannted to check if you can hear the difference in normal studio work. I tried hard to play the same and with the same levels. ( I stayed with the apoggees)
That makes no sense whatsoever. There's no way to compare something as subtle as converters on two wildly different performances! Why didn't you just run the same pre-recorded mix through the converters? The converters don't care if the voltage running through a circuit has already been recorded or not. Voltage is voltage. This is not an appropriate test or a competent approximation of "normal studio work" at all. Shootout Fail.
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