HERE IT IS! The 500 Series Shootout Files! - Page 11

junior · 20th October 2010

Thanks again, James. What a great thread!

I gotta' say MUCH respect to the 512 and 312! Good stuff from the SH, Biz, P1 and MP1A too... Surprisingly, the only thing I preferred the 583s on was el guitar - simply massive!

Too bad the Juggernaut didn't make it to the party - I'm kinda' curious about that one.

Cheers!

NathanEldred · 20th October 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by junior

Too bad the Juggernaut didn't make it to the party - I'm kinda' curious about that one.

There are some audio samples and videos (albiet degraded by youtube) here along with end user and mag (Mix mag and Tape Op) reviews:

APA Gear - Testimonials, Video Clips, F.A.Q., User Reviews, & Audio Samples - US Toll Free @ 1.866.235.0953, Ph. 813.746.4058

A lot of Gearslutz using it too (the Twin sounds the same as the 500 version, but the Twin just has more features so reviews on threads are interchangable between the two).

nick-the-sax · 14th January 2011

i look at this thread more than is healthy! total GAS is what it gives me.

congratulations you lot, because of you, i now have the ambition to own every single 500 unit. let the madness begin :p

PureArtist · 21st January 2011

Here's my take:

Friedman Dirty Shirly - Crunchy

Reeves Super '78 50 Watt - Distorted

Hary Joyce Custom 30 - Crunchy, Distorted

Ceriatone Plexi 100 - Fat, Distorted

Event Horizon 50 Watt - Trebly, Distorted

Event Horizon 100 Watt - Metalic, Clear Distortion

Allyn Meyers Koncorde - Flat, Blurry/Muddy, Distorted

Ugly Amps Whirly - Flat, Blury/Muddy, Little crunch, Distorted

Risson - Flat, Very Blurry/Muddy, Distorted

Marshall '68 Plexi 50 watt (small head) used with Variac - Stringy, Very Distorted

The Amplighter · 28th August 2011

The role of the preamp is actually to boost the signal so you can mask your drum samples.

bowdagger · 8th September 2011

583s and Gama won it for me, with the ma5 coming in 3rd on pretty much every test. The ma5 does sound great, but there seems to be this strange fan boy thing going on with that pre on these boards.

Arichlsss · 16th October 2011

are the clips gone i just found some links to a studio on post 212

rikvee · 29th October 2011

I loved this comparison, thanks to all involved in doing it, 3½years ago!

The reposted samples are in the middle of this same thread here (on my browser, this is called post #208):

HERE IT IS! The 500 Series Shootout Files!

shreddersinc · 12th February 2012

I don't know why but the MA5 on the electric guitar sounds head and shoulders above anything else(I have a bad room so I had to listen on headphones to hear the difference).
The only answer I think it could be was the performance.Or did you reamp the electric guitar for the pre's
I know the singers did different performances for the pre's, but even on an electric guitar with the mic in the same place....It's gotta be the performance right?

I haven't spent too much time comparing but man is that MA5 really that much better on guitar?
Sorry if some questions have been answered, I don't presently have the time to read all of these pages+ theres always alot of speculation and owners of some of this gear get a bit subjective.
Thanks,
Sorry for the rambling long post
Great Job, by the way...I think you R king of the slutz now

Do you have any cheaper non 500 series pre's you could throw in like the gap, rnp, p-solo, ect.

shreddersinc · 16th February 2012

bump!

Does anyone know if the electric guitar performances are different?
Thanks this is a very valuable thread....I kid you not listen to the ma5(electric guitar) on head phones if you have a bad room...it really is pushing the envelope of too good, unless it's a seperate performance.It probably is because no one has answered me.

Sorry I'm a noob, not trying to ask stupid questions here, and I help when I can.

Thanks for this shoot out and thanks to anyone who will answer my newbie question.
I'm new to recording but a pro-musician(guitar mainly)

20th October 2010	#301
junior Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,078	Thanks again, James. What a great thread! I gotta' say MUCH respect to the 512 and 312! Good stuff from the SH, Biz, P1 and MP1A too... Surprisingly, the only thing I preferred the 583s on was el guitar - simply massive! Too bad the Juggernaut didn't make it to the party - I'm kinda' curious about that one. Cheers! __________________ "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep"... --Scott Adams

14th January 2011	#303
nick-the-sax Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,403 2 Reviews written	i look at this thread more than is healthy! total GAS is what it gives me. congratulations you lot, because of you, i now have the ambition to own every single 500 unit. let the madness begin :p __________________ My new site: www.hoppermusic.com *Thanks Scattamah!!!* ...my stock-music page: http://www.istockphoto.com/nicksamuel ***and i'll record sax for your tracks

21st January 2011	#304
PureArtist Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 551	Here's my take: Friedman Dirty Shirly - Crunchy Reeves Super '78 50 Watt - Distorted Hary Joyce Custom 30 - Crunchy, Distorted Ceriatone Plexi 100 - Fat, Distorted Event Horizon 50 Watt - Trebly, Distorted Event Horizon 100 Watt - Metalic, Clear Distortion Allyn Meyers Koncorde - Flat, Blurry/Muddy, Distorted Ugly Amps Whirly - Flat, Blury/Muddy, Little crunch, Distorted Risson - Flat, Very Blurry/Muddy, Distorted Marshall '68 Plexi 50 watt (small head) used with Variac - Stringy, Very Distorted __________________ www.soundclick.com/sanjaynathan http://soundcloud.com/godofwartwo/beyonce-end-of-time-remix

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shreddersinc Gear Head Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 65 7 Reviews written	I don't know why but the MA5 on the electric guitar sounds head and shoulders above anything else(I have a bad room so I had to listen on headphones to hear the difference). The only answer I think it could be was the performance.Or did you reamp the electric guitar for the pre's I know the singers did different performances for the pre's, but even on an electric guitar with the mic in the same place....It's gotta be the performance right? I haven't spent too much time comparing but man is that MA5 really that much better on guitar? Sorry if some questions have been answered, I don't presently have the time to read all of these pages+ theres always alot of speculation and owners of some of this gear get a bit subjective. Thanks, Sorry for the rambling long post Great Job, by the way...I think you R king of the slutz now Do you have any cheaper non 500 series pre's you could throw in like the gap, rnp, p-solo, ect.

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shreddersinc Gear Head Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 65 7 Reviews written	bump! Does anyone know if the electric guitar performances are different? Thanks this is a very valuable thread....I kid you not listen to the ma5(electric guitar) on head phones if you have a bad room...it really is pushing the envelope of too good, unless it's a seperate performance.It probably is because no one has answered me. Sorry I'm a noob, not trying to ask stupid questions here, and I help when I can. Thanks for this shoot out and thanks to anyone who will answer my newbie question. I'm new to recording but a pro-musician(guitar mainly)