Tracking room acoustic treatment - Just a test...

[judah]

Hi all,
I'm almost done with my trackin room acoustic treatment and would like to submit a short drum clip to get some inputs from you. The room (8x5m aprox) was almost bare bone before, woodfloor, concrete walls & ceiling, nasty sounding. I built a few panels to cover the ceiling (about a dozen spread out on the entire ceiling surface), a wall behind the drums with corner traps and mid-band absorber on the bottom, diffusion on top. The opposite wall has two corner traps and couple more mid-band absorber. Here's the fine details about the recording:

Drum set: Tama StarClassic

Kick: AKG D12
Snare: Beyer M201
Floor Tom: Beyer M500
Over Mono: Beyer M160, 5 feet over the snare
Room Stereo: SE Electronics SE3A spaced, 8 feet from the drums at hears height

0.00 - 0.15, all mics
0.16 - 0.26, Kick
0.27 - 0.37, Snare
0.37 - 0.48, Over Mono
0.49 - 0.59, Room Stereo
1.00 on, all mics again

Everything was tracked with a D&R Triton, no EQ, no comp while tracking. I put a URS API EQ on kick, snare, floor and mono overhead and a URS Neve EQ on Room, UAD 1975 on all channels, UAD Fairchild on master. Compression is very light on all channels, just a tad little bit to level it out the peaks, EQ is very very minimal (1dB here 1dB there).

Any input will be much appreciated.

THX.

[straypacket]

Sounds good. Do you have a "before" recording?

[judah]

Originally Posted by straypacket

Sounds good. Do you have a "before" recording?

Hi Stray,
no unfortunately the desk was under manteinance during the acoustic treatment installation so I wasn't able to record anything. Thanks for the input. Anyone else?

[moracspace]

Even though the snare sounds a little distant the over all drum sound is very nice.Im a hugh fan of mono overhead.Keep up the good sounds

[straypacket]

Originally Posted by judah

Hi Stray,
no unfortunately the desk was under manteinance during the acoustic treatment installation so I wasn't able to record anything. Thanks for the input. Anyone else?

You mentioned some minor EQ treatments, while mixing. What were you enhancing/masking with those?

[judah]

Originally Posted by moracspace

Even though the snare sounds a little distant the over all drum sound is very nice.Im a hugh fan of mono overhead.Keep up the good sounds

Thanks Morac!

[judah]

Originally Posted by straypacket

You mentioned some minor EQ treatments, while mixing. What were you enhancing/masking with those?

Hi Stray,

Kick: no EQ
Snare: -1dB @ 250, +3dB @ 10Khz (needed some snap, snare head is blown out and I'm no drummer...)
Over Mono: +3dB @ 12Khz (M160 is a very nice ribbon but needed to be brightened a bit to fit the sound)
Room Stereo: no EQ (I'm still testing the SE3A out and so I try and use'em without any processing to understand exactly what they do)

THX.

[judah]

Here's another clip with different mics and approach:

Drumset: again Tama Starclassic (with my sub-par drumming)
Kick 22", Snare 14" (Remo Ambassador), Floor Tom 16" (Remo Ambassador), HH Zijldian 14" medium, Crash (don't know), Ride 22" old (60'?) Avedis (dark and jazzy, not the best for this kind of stuff)

Kick: AKG D12 (inside kick drum, with foam pad to kill some resonance)
Snare: Beyer M201 - HPF @ 100Hz - RNC (light compression)
Snare Bottom: Oktava MC012 (hyper+pad) - same as above
Floor Tom: Beyer M500
Overheads: SE3A - ProVLA - light compression

Had to EQ the kick a lot (in mixing), I usually put my D12 right at the hole in the resonant head (previous clip) and if the tuning is right I have to EQ just a tad bit. Here I had to put some 6dB @ 50Hz, cutting some mud at 500 and boosting a bit the snap at 2.5Khz. Snare has almost no EQ. Overhead with a gentle HPF @ 70Hz. Kick, Snare, Snare Bottom and Floor with URS 1980 compressor (no more than 3-4dB), overheads with 1980 comp-lim (about 3dB again), drums buss with URS 1975 (light compression again). No limiting or normalizing on master. I was looking for a more compressed sound to see how the room would interact with the drumset. If anyone cares to listen and give me some input I'll greatly appreciate.

THX.

[judah]

The more I listen to the second clip I posted, the more it reminds me of some Fu Manchu song. Maybe it's just a unconscious thing, the drums sound is just a pale copy but the vibe ticks something in my brain.