Apple's New "Weeks Long" Battery

[MediaMix]

Apple Hydrogen Fuel Cell Battery Plans Revealed

Apple is planning to make devices powered by hydrogen fuel cells, according to patent applications published by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

The plans could create computers and phones with weeks-long battery power. It would also make the devices lighter and less bulky.

According to the Telegraph, hydrogen fuel cells work by converting hydrogen and oxygen into water and electrical energy. This technology is already being explored for cars and the military.

"Our country's continuing reliance on fossil fuels has forced our government to maintain complicated political and military relationships with unstable governments in the Middle East, and has also exposed our coastlines and our citizens to the associated hazards of offshore drilling," reads the patent application. "These problems have led to an increasing awareness and desire on the part of consumers to promote and use renewable energy sources."

This won't come as much of a surprise to those who follow Apple closely. The company has filed several other patent applications for similar technology, as reported by Apple Insider in October.

[BlackBackDrop]

And I hope the patent is rejected as anyone wanting to power a device (depending on how a "device" is defined) would have to pay Apple a license fee.

This tech was invented by a German way back in the 1850’s (from memory), its so simple. I guess the people who rule our world decided many years ago to ignore it and continue using other fuels.

[work2do]

Originally Posted by BlackBackDrop

And I hope the patent is rejected as anyone wanting to power a device (depending on how a "device" is defined) would have to pay Apple a license fee.

You don't want a battery that can work for weeks because you don't want the person that invented it to get what they deserve?

Is this an Anti-Apple thing or an Anti-Technology Advancement thing?

[BlackBackDrop]

Originally Posted by work2do

You don't want a battery that can work for weeks because you don't want the person that invented it to get what they deserve?

Is this an Anti-Apple thing or an Anti-Technology Advancement thing?

No I mean if Apple manage to patent this then no one else can use it (thats an Anti Tech move - not me)

[MediaMix]

Originally Posted by BlackBackDrop

No I mean if Apple manage to patent this then no one else can use it (thats an Anti Tech move - not me)

I don't think that's accurate. This is something revolutionary coming to the market. The idea may not be revolutionary but it will be the first on the market. Apple will make tons more $ letting everyone use this product. Apple will have their normal one year apple-only but after that. People use Firewire on PCs and never complain about having to pay apple.

[TRA]

Originally Posted by BlackBackDrop

And I hope the patent is rejected as anyone wanting to power a device (depending on how a "device" is defined) would have to pay Apple a license fee.

This tech was invented by a German way back in the 1850’s (from memory), its so simple. I guess the people who rule our world decided many years ago to ignore it and continue using other fuels.

So Apple should spend time and money to develop their implementation of this technology only for it to be copied, for free, by other tech companies? I call bullsh&t.

[jitterybit]

Originally Posted by MediaMix

Apple Hydrogen Fuel Cell Battery Plans Revealed


According to the Telegraph, hydrogen fuel cells work by converting hydrogen and oxygen into water and electrical energy. This technology is already being explored for cars and the military.

The Patent and Trademark Office still use Telegraph?


What's your iPhone going to do with the water it produces?
At least one of the two largest corporations in the world are investigating alternative energy.

[jitterybit]

Actually, they probably will never use the patent. Just wait and sue whoever does.

[MediaMix]

Originally Posted by jitterybit

The Patent and Trademark Office still use Telegraph?.

For those who do not know what the Telegraph is Apple plots smartphones powered by hydrogen - Telegraph

Originally Posted by jitterybit

Actually, they probably will never use the patent. Just wait and sue whoever does.

Yep. That's what apple does. Sit on patents. That's how they have amassed that fortune.

[work2do]

It's a shame people would rather focus on Apple hate than the fact of a "week's long battery" for consumers. Who cares who makes the battery, it's a good thing.

[jitterybit]

Sorry, don't follow UK press as I'm sure you don't read the Tennessean.
Not hating on apple but they have been in patent wars with samsung and htc, among others for the last few years.
They won more patents last year than 3M.
Posted from my MacBook Pro

[drumdrum]

Is no one else not a bit worried about the prospect of walking around and having goddam HYDROGEN in your pocket?

I mean, when their iphones / ipads over heat they cause fires. So throw in some hydrogen into the mix for good measure..... BOOM!

There will be body parts everywhere!

[matt thomas]

Originally Posted by drumdrum

Is no one else not a bit worried about the prospect of walking around and having goddam HYDROGEN in your pocket?

I mean, when their iphones / ipads over heat they cause fires. So throw in some hydrogen into the mix for good measure..... BOOM!

There will be body parts everywhere!

A small amount of hydrogen in your pocket is no more dangerous than what is currently in batteries, acid, lithium etc. and if your iphone was hot enough to ignite hydrogen it wouldn't be in your pocket anyway. Then an explosion from some hydrogen the size of an iphone battery wouldn't be that big (probably the energy released would only be about what it takes to power an iphone for a week )

So what is this tech from the 1850's anyway? I'm guessing burning hydrogen? Because if it is, then I highly doubt that apple is planning on us having little hydrogen fired combustion engines in our iphones.. Sounds like someone has been buying into a few too many conspiracy theories.

matt

[BlackBackDrop]

Originally Posted by TRA

So Apple should spend time and money to develop their implementation of this technology only for it to be copied, for free, by other tech companies? I call bullsh&t.

Its not there technology, it belongs to s clever German from 1850 (I would think) but then again who knows, I guess applying for the patent is the only way to find out if its the case.

But look at the comments on this forum, Apple haters people shout, what for been honest. Patents are valuable and big comps know it and care little for the enviroment, even the Green ones.

[BlackBackDrop]

Originally Posted by matt thomas

So what is this tech from the 1850's anyway? I'm guessing burning hydrogen? Because if it is, then I highly doubt that apple is planning on us having little hydrogen fired combustion engines in our iphones.. Sounds like someone has been buying into a few too many conspiracy theories.

matt

A fuel cell is a device that converts the chemical energy from a fuel into electricity through a chemical reaction. Apple are going to use H. This was first invented in 1938 (I just checked wiki).

But peps have already done it, so like I originally said, I hope Apple do not get the patent if it is free else that will stop technological development:

Here is one I made earlier?

UPSS Hymera QTE - YouTube!

[matt thomas]

Originally Posted by BlackBackDrop

A fuel cell is a device that converts the chemical energy from a fuel into electricity through a chemical reaction. Apple are going to use H. This was first invented in 1938 (I just checked wiki).

But peps have already done it, so like I originally said, I hope Apple do not get the patent if it is free else that will stop technological development:

Here is one I made earlier?

UPSS Hymera QTE - YouTube!

I see (although I think you mean 1839). Fuel cells are already widely used, apple won't be patenting the general idea of a fuel cell, but rather an implementation of it (or something similar or even entirely different). The fact that there is a wikipedia page about them I would say alone is enough evidence that they are public knowledge.

matt

[BlackBackDrop]

Originally Posted by matt thomas

I see (although I think you mean 1839). Fuel cells are already widely used, apple won't be patenting the general idea of a fuel cell, but rather an implementation of it (or something similar or even entirely different). The fact that there is a wikipedia page about them I would say alone is enough evidence that they are public knowledge.

matt

True..

Found this today, related to patents been bought...

BBC News - Google adds IBM patents as it looks to future

[soundesign]

I hope they will be backwards compatible with today's Apple products.

[bartonrogers]

The sooner they bring thes out, the better.

[mamabuna]

I do not see this happening for the next 5-10 years as in order to use water efficiently you need an external power source to push the water through a protone exchange membrane (PEM), The PEM is the heart of this "new-old" idea . The PEM is an advance Polymer material developed first by Mercedez Benz on a large scale prototype at the beginning of the 90s (the project is dead now). However the principle of a solid fuel cell was invented by General Electric who were the first to actually make money out this very very expensive technology ( see NASA Gemini). An efficient PEM costs about 10 to 12 times more than a Mac Pro.....Still 5-10 years is not that bad after all..

[Melodnb]

My dumb phone already lasts a week and a half on one charge :P

[PopularDemand]

Originally Posted by Melodnb

My dumb phone already lasts a week and a half on one charge :P

What phone is that? I need one of those.

[DanDaMan]

Originally Posted by soundesign

I hope they will be backwards compatible with today's Apple products.

I hope so too. I also hope that they work with older products too. Would be nice to have one of those batteries though, kinda pissed off with the 3-4 hour battery life I'm getting out of my MBP