When kick and snare converge in dance music

eddu · 29th November 2006

Hi,

What do you do whenyo get your kick and snare sounding at the same time and so your drum buss level increases leading to peaks on the master channel?

I find sidechaining the kick to a comp an the other drums elements a bit too much. I always compres wery little the whole drum buss, but the level still raises a bit. Then i limit at final stage, before the dithering.

Should i limit the drumbuss instead of compressing it, then leave a bit more threshold for the final limiting at mastering?

Thx

Methlab · 29th November 2006

I turn down volume. You are mixing too loud if this is the case.

You always don't need a limiter on a mix. I would never do that..thats mastering.

Jay Selway · 8th December 2006

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Originally Posted by eddu

Hi,

What do you do whenyo get your kick and snare sounding at the same time and so your drum buss level increases leading to peaks on the master channel?

I find sidechaining the kick to a comp an the other drums elements a bit too much. I always compres wery little the whole drum buss, but the level still raises a bit. Then i limit at final stage, before the dithering.

Should i limit the drumbuss instead of compressing it, then leave a bit more threshold for the final limiting at mastering?

Thx

Find the most dominant high end freq in your kick and use a subtractive eq on your snare. I also tend to use a stereo imager to slam the snare pretty wide. If your kick is mono and your snare stereo with a notch in it.. tends to work pretty well.

filoandperi · 8th December 2006

first off i wouldnt limit/compress the kick along with the drum buss. you will get too much pumping effect. If you want to buss compress the elements fine, but do it without the kick. It wont punch through the mix well enough on a good system if you do it. IMHO you shouldnt even need to buss compress your drums & percussion - ive found that it sounds better if you compress everything that needs to be compressed seperately. Make sure you arent mixing w. your levels too loud as it will seriously compromise your sound quality. Are you high passing your snare so it doesnt interfere with the kick?

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29th November 2006	#1
eddu Gear interested Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 26 Thread Starter	When kick and snare converge in dance music Hi, What do you do whenyo get your kick and snare sounding at the same time and so your drum buss level increases leading to peaks on the master channel? I find sidechaining the kick to a comp an the other drums elements a bit too much. I always compres wery little the whole drum buss, but the level still raises a bit. Then i limit at final stage, before the dithering. Should i limit the drumbuss instead of compressing it, then leave a bit more threshold for the final limiting at mastering? Thx

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Methlab Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 3,686	I turn down volume. You are mixing too loud if this is the case. You always don't need a limiter on a mix. I would never do that..thats mastering. __________________ Professionally played Basslines for $35 a Track. www.professionalbassguitar.com

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filoandperi Gear Head Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 38	first off i wouldnt limit/compress the kick along with the drum buss. you will get too much pumping effect. If you want to buss compress the elements fine, but do it without the kick. It wont punch through the mix well enough on a good system if you do it. IMHO you shouldnt even need to buss compress your drums & percussion - ive found that it sounds better if you compress everything that needs to be compressed seperately. Make sure you arent mixing w. your levels too loud as it will seriously compromise your sound quality. Are you high passing your snare so it doesnt interfere with the kick? Bo www.myspace.com/filoandperi #77