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New mixing console for techno who does good/lots of saturation/distortion

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Im looking for a new mixing console where you can heavily drive the channels (distort/saturate).

A good example of what im looking for would be something like a "Boss KM 60" where you can saturate/distort really nicely. But of coarse it should be a full board.
Im not looking for anything transparent or clean.

How would a tl audio valve board for example do something like that? Do any of the new boards even remotely add so much saturation like a cheap old boss km 60? do i need to look for a vintage board?

Any suggestions?
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I am also looking for a 19" rack-mountable mixer for some hands-on dub-mixing. Was originally thinking about an X-Panda, but seeing this one has gone out of production (and only one send, wich is always active, making the echo-send dub-style not possible) it seems like a no-go.

19" is a must! So maybe something like a A&H MixWizard4 14:4:2 ? looks nice from the specs, but don`t have any hands-on experience.
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check out the sondcraft delta deluxe.

I've not used the TLaudo board but i have a couple of their compressors. It's my understanding that the amp circuit is a standard IC affair with the tube added after the actual amplification.

thats how it is with the compressors, kind of a cheat and they actually dont sound great when pushed. my TLAC1 does a very nice job of being clean, but pushing the valves into saturation does nothing good for the sound.

On the other hand my soundcraft delta excels at over-gain saturation, which is why i recommend that. steer clear of the TLA stuff in my opinion.
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I have a soundcraft ghost 24/8 here at the moment and im not happy with its saturation capabilities. how does a delta compare to a ghost in that regard?
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Hello Gearslutz

Im looking for a new mixing console where you can heavily drive the channels (distort/saturate).

A good example of what im looking for would be something like a "Boss KM 60" where you can saturate/distort really nicely. But of coarse it should be a full board.
Im not looking for anything transparent or clean. ..
Look no farther than a Tascam 424 or Tascam desks in general. They distort like crazy and the cassette also can take a lot of gain. Also older Mackie are good choices I have 1404vlz and 1202vlz. Studiomaster and Sony desks are also well regarded.

If you want pure distortion forget expensive machines. My latest work was tracked and mixed on a 424 to give you an idea how far you can push it.
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I think the idea of getting sweet saturation, warmth, and distortion off of a mixing desk, especially a Mackie VLZ with solid state design or something, is misplaced.

Sure the Boss and some others may overdrive in neat ways, but most likely they aren't great overall mixers. You're probably just better off getting a some dedicated units to color the sound, and use those with the mixer that suits your routing needs. Something like Warm Audio Tone Beast perhaps.

I mean the TL audio mixer may have a cool drive tone, but that's only one color given a big investment when you could just get one TL rack unit for one color, something else for a different color, then perhaps get a larger more flexible mixer to go with it.
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I have a soundcraft ghost 24/8 here at the moment and im not happy with its saturation capabilities. how does a delta compare to a ghost in that regard?
Delta sounds more solid. Not as flimsy as Ghost. I reckon from memory if you want an actual desk, you could try a Soundtracs IL. Vibey for dance music, with cool eq's too.

But then you might just want one or two of these, really:

Colour Modular Analog Saturator

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I have a soundcraft ghost 24/8 here at the moment and im not happy with its saturation capabilities. how does a delta compare to a ghost in that regard?
don't know. sorry
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Look no farther than a Tascam 424 or Tascam desks in general. They distort like crazy and the cassette also can take a lot of gain.
This. This machine really should be considered a secret weapon. oppsss..
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i think thats the way to go.. get some specialised equipment to do my saturation and then go into a regular desk. maybe i also gonna get me a tape. the tascam looks like a lot of fun btw
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There is a Delta close to me, but it`s a 32 channel (huge) board. I personally want something more compact.

I actually have a Tascam 424 And yeah it will distort, but not very pleasantly... and only one send and no direct outs.
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