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Vermona Kick Lancet or Mono Lancet

I am looking to make those nice Vermona kickdrums. But i am wondering about a few things:

- Is the Kick Lancet the EXACT same kick synth as the DRM1 MKIII kick channel from Vermona?

- Is the Mono Lancet capable of desent kick sounds? (if so, it might be more appealing as I get something sweet for basslines to)


Hoping someone can enlighten me.
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I think the Kick Lancet is the same as the DRM MKIII Kick channel except for the frequency modulation in the KL. Also the KL has 'balls' Which might possibly be built in to the DRM MKIII Kick but not controllable. Would be interesting to know if the DRM kick has balls or not.

Never tried to make a kick from the Mono Lancet, I normally prefer to use a dedicated drum synth opposed to fiddling around for long periods trying to discover sweet spots...because I am lazy.
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Thanks jh0nny.

Anyone else know for sure?
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I have a lancet mono and recently made a multi sampled drumkit with it.
I thought the kick was easier to get than the snare sound fwiw.
My drummer thought they sounded pretty good. I sampled thru the Tritons EQ and reverb. one boom kick and one more thump, sorry I'm too low tech to know how to post them here. the envelope is a tad slow so I moved up the attack in triton's sample edit.
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I own the Kick Lancet and had the DRM-1 MKIII for a couple of years. They are pretty much the same only the Lancet has an LFO and bigger balls! I wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a blind test, unless you used the extra features of the Lancet.
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I haven't tried the Kick Lancet but I don't think you will be disatisfied with the kicks (or other sounds) that the Mono Lancet can provide. Like Triton76 I have also made a whole drum kit with sounds from my Lancet with great results. But it's worth to mention that if you want really snappy fast sounds the ML doesn't have the envelope for it.
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the insightfull responses.

I might just have to buy them both and then decide if i keep one or the other or even both.
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the insightfull responses.

I might just have to buy them both and then decide if i keep one or the other or even both.
If you do, and decide to sell the Lancet, let me know. I need another one for a project. I had one before but sold it when I shouldn't have
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Wich one do you need, the kick or mono lancet? And where are you located?

Edit: nevermind. England i see. the Netherlands myself. So that would be doable i guess.
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Mono Lancet. Best price I can find is £343.99 inc delivery, so was hoping to find a used one under £300.
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If i do resell it, i cant do under 300. But 300 is more likely.
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Yeah 300 is my limit. But I'm guessing you'll keep it. They do sound very good.
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My vote is for the Mono Lancet. Always made bigger and better kicks than my DRM3. No idea why - maybe just a better quality/fatter osc? Maybe that's why they added the 'balls' to the kick lancet? You also get yourself a damn nice sounding synth into the bargain.

Don't discount the Nord Drum either - can make some huge snappy kicks. Criminally underrated and about half the price of what it was...
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Just ordered both of them at Thomann.
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me too! damn!


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If you do, and decide to sell the Lancet, let me know. I need another one for a project. I had one before but sold it when I shouldn't have
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Just ordered both of them at Thomann.
Like a true slut!
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Got them in today and started tweaking just now............. Love them both allreay damnit!

I never had any analog or outboard synths before. And although i love my U-he stuff, the immediacy of these boxes is a breath of fresh air for me. Really like how they invite the performance with the knob per parameter and lack of storing presets. Whatever I make on these, i tend to commit beter. Sometimes the endless being able to go back and tweak just dstroys me with my software. Love my midi contollers and plugins, but this just added so much to it.

And very, very pleased with the depth of sound these little boxes provide. They also take ITB effect processing sooo well. So smooth.

A very welcome addition to my setup all in all i'd say!
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Any chance you could post some clips with these? I would love to hear them in use.
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Please excuse these crude demo's. Just letting you hear some different tonality's instead of showing them in a practical concept where i'm actually playing something usefull.

Kick Lancet

Mono Lancet
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Interested to hear these, but cannot play.

Unsupported file codec.
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Its 24 bit, 44100Khz

If you have Foobar, that will play it for sure.
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Please excuse these crude demo's. Just letting you hear some different tonality's instead of showing them in a practical concept where i'm actually playing something usefull.
Hi, really enjoyed that. Thanks a lot for the upload.

Where was the distortion on the kick coming from?
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Hi, really enjoyed that. Thanks a lot for the upload.

Where was the distortion on the kick coming from?
i havent listened to the demo but i'm guessing it's from the wave(shaper) knob.
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Some of it is also because i did not adjust the gain accordingly after adjusting de wave from sine to pulse or after i increased the 'balls' knob. In that case the output from the kick lancet can distort a bit when you leave it all the way up.
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So.... flat earth.... The time has come. I am now getting rid of my Mono Lancet. Anyone located in the Netherlands?
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So.... flat earth.... The time has come. I am now getting rid of my Mono Lancet. Anyone located in the Netherlands?
Did you manage to sell it?
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Yes, both the Mono Lancet and Kick Lancet
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