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Tip Top Audio BD808/SD808 etc

I'm not really familiar with Modular stuff but these modules have caught my interest. I was just wondering if anyone has experience with them? Ideally I'd like to buy the kick, snare and hi hat and the happy ending enclosure kit / power supply.

Do these modules output at line level? Would I need some sort of CV mixer or could I just send the outs directly to my audio interface? If anyone could chime in, I'd be very grateful.
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modular audio levels is louder than line level. things frequently need to be attenuated when going into a mixer or sound card.

i haven't used the BD808/SD808 but i have the BD 909 which i like. has more range than a 909 BD. i haven't tried to dial in an exact clone of a 909 kick (because i don't care if it sounds exactly like a 909) but i've gotten a lot out of it that more than meets the goal of what i'm after.

i made this really boring demo that just shows you the kick by itself.. out of context of a beat or song... no EQ and no compression.. signal goes from the modular to a mackie mixer to the computer.. there's nothing else in the signal chain and nothing else in the modular patch.. just sending trigger and some CV to the tta BD909 to hear what it sounds like.

obviously it's pointless to listen to this on laptop speakers or similar.. you need some decent headphones or monitors..



also, there are tiptopaudio BD808 demos on sound cloud and vimeo

oh, btw.. tiptop modules are made well and designed well and sound great.
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Hey there ignatius. That's super helpful. Just the type of info I'm after. Are there any modules you'd recommend to get the right levels into my computer? Some sort of CV line mixer would be cool too.

Since I'm based in Japan, Tip Top now have distribution here and so grabbing them online wouldn't be so difficult. Doepfer too.
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Thanks for the demo
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If you're going to have multiple modules, I would recommend the MFB Drum-99 and Pittsburgh Outs combo.

It provides stereo with pan and multiple inputs. My configuration is:

BD909, BD808, LDB 1e, SD808 => MFB-99 => Pittsburgh Outs
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That's awesome. Thanks. Very reasonably priced, too. I was planning to go ahead
and order the modules but tonight I've been having some serious internal debate about it.
I really want the 808 sounds and ideally a sequencer too. In the end I decided to pony up the extra cash and get an acidlab Miami.
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a friend of mine ordered the LDB-1 which has a lot of electronic percussion and a small front panel.

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If you're going to have multiple modules, I would recommend the MFB Drum-99 and Pittsburgh Outs combo.

It provides stereo with pan and multiple inputs. My configuration is:

BD909, BD808, LDB 1e, SD808 => MFB-99 => Pittsburgh Outs
yeah got something like that as well.
the levels aren't that much of a problem, just lower the gain on your mixer.
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If you're going to have multiple modules, I would recommend the MFB Drum-99 and Pittsburgh Outs combo.

It provides stereo with pan and multiple inputs. My configuration is:

BD909, BD808, LDB 1e, SD808 => MFB-99 => Pittsburgh Outs
very cool. what case did you use and what was the rough cost all together?
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very cool. what case did you use and what was the rough cost all together?
Tiptop HEK. Don't recall total cost, since I picked up the pieces a bit at a time and tried to grab as many used as possible. If you're patient and buy used via eBay or Muff's BST forum you can save 20% or so. I also have a Plague Bearer in there.

Come to think of it, the only bit I bought new was the HEK. I'm just waiting on a HH909 and I'm set (for drums).
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Guys. Sorry for the bump. I intended to buy the Miami, but the price frankly takes the p*ss here in Japan. So, I bought the Analog Four and the BD808/SD808/HATS808. Has anyone got an Analog Four they are using to sequence Eurorack stuff?

I'm having a little trouble, because I'm a CV Gate noob. At the moment, I can get them to trigger but all the modules are triggering simultaneously. If I select a step from the sequencer, all the instruments are playing at once.

Anyone care to chime in? I'd really appreciate it.
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I don't know the elektron boxes that well but I think you got the wrong one for triggering drum modules. Machinedrum would have been better!
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The Analog Four has only 1 CV/Gate Track but you need 3, 1 for each module.

On the modular market you can find many different modules to trigger your modules.

Pamela workout is great but you might also want something to sync with your Analog Four.
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The Analog Four has only 1 CV/Gate Track but you need 3, 1 for each module.

On the modular market you can find many different modules to trigger your modules.

Pamela workout is great but you might also want something to sync with your Analog Four.
The A4 allows any of the tracks to be used to sequence each CV, it also allows each CV to be set to gate and there are 4 CVs. So you are incorrect in what you are saying here!
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I don't know the elektron boxes that well but I think you got the wrong one for triggering drum modules. Machinedrum would have been better!
Why do you think this?
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The A4 allows any of the tracks to be used to sequence each CV, it also allows each CV to be set to gate and there are 4 CVs. So you are incorrect in what you are saying here!
This is what I thought. Any suggestions as to how to make this happen? Sorry if this is relatively simplistic for some, but it's just not working out for me.
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You know what? I just figured it out, thanks guys. And it was a stupidly simple thing as I suspected.
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Don't forget the MFB SEQ-01 witch is just 169 euro.
It has up to 32 steps, 12 trigger outputs, 4 level value's for the trigger outputs, 909 style swing, 16 patterns in memory, switching of patterns with external triggers, reset and TR style programming. Very hard to beat at any price.
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can't you send gates out of machinedrums outputs? I read it somewhere on here or muffwigger.
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The A4 allows any of the tracks to be used to sequence each CV, it also allows each CV to be set to gate and there are 4 CVs. So you are incorrect in what you are saying here!
Cool! Didn't know that. Sorry. So you could trigger drum modules with gates from the Analog Four.
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You can have 4 trigger outputs from the Analog Four.
The MD, you can use Imp Machines for triggers. Also, if you have the UW, you can sample a trigger pulse and use this. This is what i did when my MD was working, i now do this with the Octatrack to trigger my BD909. I've also figured out that the TTA drum modules will trigger with audio too.
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Is there any way to hit the BD808 harder so ACcent levels can be higher than stock? I'd like my unit to sound a little more growly like a real 808 BD when fully ACcented.

ATM I'm triggering it with a doepfer A-119 so that should be 5V.

I read the BD808 has some sort of normalizer the 'input dual pulse shaper' which normalizes incoming pulses? That should be bypassed / disabled in order to hit the circuit a little harder right?

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