I have a chance to buy a Jupiter 8 Whats a good price?
Old 26th March 2013
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I have a chance to buy a Jupiter 8 Whats a good price?

So fellow slutz I have a chance to buy a Jupiter 8 for 5K its in good cosmetic shape. It also has some issues I will need to get a midi kit or a dcb midi adapter. Also it is my understanding that the LFO Delay knob is not working. and the "load Button" is missing. (the owner doesn't know if its the pot or something else)

Is 5k a good price?
What should I be looking for when I check it out?


Also what kind of maintenance issues will I need to worry about?
Thanks!


Edit: It does not have a DCB Port So im guessing I would need to do a kenton kit?


Edit: Pics here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dhuxyg2qw...HMjjJhF0/JP8#/
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Is that in US green backs?

If you had to ask this question in the first place then you already have the answer oooooohhh!
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I've seen 5k fully functioning midi.
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5k with some issues? Its not a good deal. Sounds like a project.
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Is that in US green backs?

If you had to ask this question in the first place then you already have the answer oooooohhh!
US dollars, And im mostly asking the question as a sanity check ive noticed that that last 3 units that sold on ebay went between 5000 and 6400 with midi. So i wanted to bounce it off some folks here and see what they think


Thanks
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Don't you want some nice recording equipment? 1176, La2a, mics?

Not trying to talk you out of it, but that's a lot of money for a vintage keyboard with issues.
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If I had the resources and planned on keeping the synth forever I'd shoot for $3k reflecting known and unknown issues.
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US dollars, And im mostly asking the question as a sanity check ive noticed that that last 3 units that sold on ebay went between 5000 and 6400 with midi. So i wanted to bounce it off some folks here and see what they think
They sold on ebay, that means $500-$640 of it didn't the seller see, due to fees. Don't use ebay prices for in-person deals. I must be lower than ebay, especially when you do not have a similar buyers protection that they offer!
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Don't you want some nice recording equipment? 1176, La2a, mics?

Not trying to talk you out of it, but that's a lot of money for a vintage keyboard with issues.

Im hip and thinking along the same line, But i do have some cool stuff at the moment (U67, La610.1272) but its not every day a jupiter 8 comes along.
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Maybe it would help if I listed my current setup.



Synths
Roland JX8P
Roland Alpha Juno 1
Roland Juno 60 w/ Minerva Mod
Roland SH09 w/ Midi to CV Converter
SCI Prophet 600
DSI Mopho Keys
Kurzweil K2000
Moog LP Stage 2
Oberheim Matrix 6R
Access Virus TI
Akai Z4 Maxed out

Sequencers/Midi
Akai MPC1000
NI Maschine
2 Emagic AMT 8

FX/Pre's
Electrix MoFX
Digitech TSR24
Fractal Audio AXE FX
Vintech 1272
UALA610 MK2
Trident 4T
Art ProMPA
ART Pro VLA
2xDBX 266


Mixer/Audio
RME Fireface 800
Bword ADA8000 clocked to the fireface
Midas Venice F 32
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They sold on ebay, that means $500-$640 of it didn't the seller see, due to fees. Don't use ebay prices for in-person deals. I must be lower than ebay, especially when you do not have a similar buyers protection that they offer!
$5,000.00 to 6,400.00 looking at completed listings, And that s avery good point! thanks!
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Don't do it. Spend that money on either modular or a noodly mono like an EMS Synthi. You have a lot of Roland polys, and you're not adding much by getting another.
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You have a lot of Roland polys, and you're not adding much by getting another.
This.

Think what other stuff you could get for the money. Unless you really really really like the sound of the JP8, I honestly think its gone wayyyyyyy past what its realistically worth these days.
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Don't do it. Spend that money on either modular or a noodly mono like an EMS Synthi. You have a lot of Roland polys, and you're not adding much by getting another.
Like "flat earth" I do agree. Too much keyboard and poly synth centric for me too. I doubt you will find any EMS synthy for that price, but here is what $5200 buys you at synthesizers.com

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i would not buy anything less than 100% fully working for $5K..

if it was 100% i would be tempted.. not far off being a good price IMO.. $4500 would be a good price IF it was 100%
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I own a Jupiter 8. It is a great synth. It is not worth what you are being asked to pay for a defective synth. Remember, you are just seeing the tip of the iceberg of problems most likely at this point. You are going to have to recap the synth, add midi, fix the LFO (assuming you can even do it without a problem), and god knows what else while waiting who knows how long for your hopefully decent synth tech to get the work done.

Seriously assume you are going to have to spend at least $1500 just to get it useable for right now and that is if you are extremely lucky and whatever tech you have is very good.

For what you would end up spending to buy the synth and repair it you could by 2 Andromeda A6's which are WAY more flexible and completely awesome.
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I own a Jupiter 8. It is a great synth. It is not worth what you are being asked to pay for a defective synth. Remember, you are just seeing the tip of the iceberg of problems most likely at this point. You are going to have to recap the synth, add midi, fix the LFO (assuming you can even do it without a problem), and god knows what else while waiting who knows how long for your hopefully decent synth tech to get the work done.

Seriously assume you are going to have to spend at least $1500 just to get it useable for right now and that is if you are extremely lucky and whatever tech you have is very good.

For what you would end up spending to buy the synth and repair it you could by 2 Andromeda A6's which are WAY more flexible and completely awesome.
Very good points what if I could get for 3K?
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This.

Think what other stuff you could get for the money. Unless you really really really like the sound of the JP8, I honestly think its gone wayyyyyyy past what its realistically worth these days.

If I could get the JP8 at a good price which of my Roland's would be redundant?
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If I could get the JP8 at a good price which of my Roland's would be redundant?
I always like a mixed brand setup, to avoid a cliched tone/sound, so I would loose the Juno 60 and replace with something like Matrix 6/Prophet 600/Polysix.


...imho of course.
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I always like a mixed brand setup, to avoid a cliched tone/sound, so I would loose the Juno 60 and replace with something like Matrix 6/Prophet 600/Polysix.


...imho of course.
Haha great call, I have a P600 and a Matrix6 R
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I always like a mixed brand setup, to avoid a cliched tone/sound, so I would loose the Juno 60 and replace with something like Matrix 6/Prophet 600/Polysix.


...imho of course.
How does the P600 stack up against the Poly 6, Ive never played one?
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Haha great call, I have a P600 and a Matrix6 R
Sorry , didn't look further down list. But answering your question, Juno 60 definatley.
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i would not buy anything less than 100% fully working for $5K..

if it was 100% i would be tempted.. not far off being a good price IMO.. $4500 would be a good price IF it was 100%
What if i Could get it for 3K? I do know a great tech.....
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Holy smokes! Quick buy this one for $2000! (Just kidding...total scam)

Roland Jupiter 8 Analog Synth Vintage JP8 Synthesizer | eBay

Seriously though, there's the market and then there's you and the seller. You have enough input at this point to make an informed decision. Go with your gut. What's it worth to you? Figure $1500 repairs. Choose a number and negotiate to get to it or lower. If the seller isn't motivated to meet your price, let it go.
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£375 is the new going rate. Any higher is BS :P
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Holy smokes! Quick buy this one for $2000! (Just kidding...total scam)

Roland Jupiter 8 Analog Synth Vintage JP8 Synthesizer | eBay

Seriously though, there's the market and then there's you and the seller. You have enough input at this point to make an informed decision. Go with your gut. What's it worth to you? Figure $1500 repairs. Choose a number and negotiate to get to it or lower. If the seller isn't motivated to meet your price, let it go.
I going to do just that, Thanks allot all of you this thread has been very helpful, Im thinking going to offer 3K to 3.5k cash.
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What if i Could get it for 3K? I do know a great tech.....
it depends what's broke with it. if its a small thing, like say the lfo delay not working.. or the upper output crackling or something, hell yes..

if its something like, the thing wont switch on.. or it does switch on but doesn't boot properly and only makes a horrific high pitched whine... that's a big risk.

me personally, as some random guy on the internet giving advice.. i wouldn't take the major risk.. i would take a moderate risk for an amazing price.
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Pics of the Synth, What do you think should I offer 3500 or 3000

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it depends what's broke with it. if its a small thing, like say the lfo delay not working.. or the upper output crackling or something, hell yes..

if its something like, the thing wont switch on.. or it does switch on but doesn't boot properly and only makes a horrific high pitched whine... that's a big risk.

me personally, as some random guy on the internet giving advice.. i wouldn't take the major risk.. i would take a moderate risk for an amazing price.
They only issues according to the seller (who is a friend) is the LFO delay issue, one missing button ( load button). It is in good cosmetic condition (see the link above for pics) So what would be a fair offer?
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$5k for an instrument with problems? It looks great. Replacing the switch shouldn't be too painful. Even the LFO issue might be pretty easy. But even fully working it's hard to get my head around that figure...but that's just my personal opinion.

$3k is easier to stomach as a buyer. How good a friend is he? I wouldn't give my friend a $2000 discount...

edit: is there an IC missing?

edit 2: sell your junos. There's a nice chunk of the cost right there. You'll get at least $1200 for the Juno 60 with Minerva. And you can buy lunch with what you get for the Alpha.

Side note: I doubt it will cost $1500 to fix the LFO problem and the button.
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