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Old 8th March 2013   #1
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Hi,
Though I often use software digital-style synthesis, I missed the hardware digital synth generation to a significant extent, so I have big gaps in my general knowledge here.

I want to know about a sampler/synth where the main aim (or an important capacity of it) is to mangle digital samples, on the fly, with performance capability in this.

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* massive time stretch range, well beyond "sensible" parameters, right to the granular level.
* resampling, preferably a very fast feature... e.g. taking new timbres from the mangled sample and quickly saving to memory
* related digital-mangling type effects like bit crushing.
* quick and easy slicing, for beat making.

It must be hardware, suitable for live performance... though reliable hardware interface with the above as a dedicated (or easily accessible) purpose is acceptable. A music keyboard is not necessary though.

My apologies if there is some sort of obvious product which fits this description - as I say this is a big gap in my knowledge.
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Octatrack, worth a look anyway.
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OK .... will do. I'm an elektron fanboy and yet I've never even looked at the octatrack much.
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any other thoughts about this ?
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ipad + SAMPLR
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ipad + SAMPLR
Can you be more specific? What kind of useful sampling interface can you get for the ipad (or other touch device - doesn't need to be ipad as I don't own one yet) which matches my requirements in the OP?
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the Korg microSAMPLER is also worth a look. Its a massivly underrated piece of gear
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SAMPLR is an amazing ipad app, but it doesn't have realtime timestretch. It seems like it should though, I think it will one day.
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SAMPLR is the name of a specific iPad/iPhone app that a lot of people like. I don't know if it fits all your requirements.

I'm not up 100% on every hardware sampler, but the Roland V-Synth gets a lot of love for extreme sample mangling. I believe it's very good for extreme time stretching/warping and resampling, not so sure about the other stuff.

Frankly you might have a hard time finding something in hardware that fits all those criteria... hardware samplers got capable enough to do all that stuff right around the time soft samplers came along and got popular for easier workflow, and then added a lot of extreme manipulation as well.
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The Big 3 really let software in the door by producing hardware grooveboxes/loopers/samplers that always had at least one missing deal-breaker feature, like lack of velocity-sensitive pads, midi, etc... Their logic and motto, I presume, was and is, "always keep them upgrading." When the price and portability of computers dropped no one needed the hassle.
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Part of the reason to leave off features is simply price - you can try to undercut your competitors by skipping one or two features you don't think are as important/popular as the rest. I wonder what the balance is/was between that side and the upgrade strategy you mention.
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You didn't state a price range, so I'll mention Kyma....it uses a hardware box, but the interface is on the computer. People do use it live.....

You might also look into the Gotharman Little Deformer.

And the Octatrack is quite fun, but it doesn't have anything granular in it, while the Gotharman does (though not with the kind of control that you seem to be asking for).
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As of literally today,the Gotharmans are sold out and he is doing a redesign so it may take awhile for the new batch. Ny side 1
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ah - looks like there is one left, though...
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Sounds to me like you are describing the Octatrack.
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