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Which drum machine?

Ideally, I'd like to have a LinnDrum, but since they're so expensive and hard to use I'm looking at other options: Roland R8, TR707, TR505...

I use Logic and am coming at it with little experience. I've only been sequencing in iDrum, but I am looking for that 80s/disco drum machine heard in New Order and Tesla Boy's music.

Perhaps an MPC would have more options? A newer version could plug into my Mac + I could sample.

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How much you looking to spend? A new mpc will get you there superficially speaking but it ain't the real deal. If you're using it purely for that, I'd say a 500 model would do fine.
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I'd second the R8, great sound, lots of outputs and you can get expansion cards for those sounds you're looking for.
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I vote for the R8. I was in the exact same boat, and picked up an R8m with 808 card for $100, and I am extremely happy. I had no clue how nice these sounded. Great bargain these days.
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Well oberheim DX is still pretty affordable.
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op -- you might consider motu bpm, it has a whole crapton of samples and is really easy to dial up.

not sure how otb you are, but if you are 100% itb you might just want to stay there. drums are probably the one sound that for me, don't really matter where they come from.

though i temper with this with the thought--deep techno kicks and 909 hats sound better otb.
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Sometimes you can find Sequential TOM's for cheap.
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Well oberheim DX is still pretty affordable.
I love my dx.
I have it sampled in my mpc which is fine, but for a serious song coming straight from the real machine and manipulating it, sounds better imo, don't care to argue.
You can get midi conversion in a couple ways now too.
The machine swings nicely and even just badly mashing the buttons usually comes up with a nice pattern.
Worth it
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If I am not mistaken the 505, 707 and R8 are all just digital sample-based drum machines. Unless what you're after is their particular hardware UI or sequencers, there's not much sense in buying one. If you just want their sounds, you can go grab sample libraries for any of these machines much cheaper.

If you were talking about an 808 or a 909, then that's different... since those machines are analog and you can tweak the parameters of the sound in ways that samples can't fully capture. But 505/707/R8 is just playing back a sample and all you control is volume/accent. Which you can do on an MPC, or on any sampler plugin.

Unless you specifically want the hardware experience, my recommendation is to shop a few drum hit sample libraries, then invest time learning to use whatever sampler plugin floats your boat - can sculpt the sound a lot from there with additional filtering and effects, make them your own.
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mmmm.. the R8 has a bit of parameters for tweaking..
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DSI?

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James, if you want the New Order sound, the Oberheim DMX is what you want. For a "cheap 'n easy" solution, you can simply download free samples of the DMX, load them into Logic's UltraBeat, and arrange them in typical '80s patterns.

P.S. The LinnDrum is one of the easiest drum machines to use
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Thanks all for your input. I think I'm gonna go with an MPC500 I found locally for $200 and load it w/ all your suggestions
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ES1 for Linn/DMX samples and MFB503 for Roland sounds.

If you're gonna go MPC, go MPC1000 with the latest JJ OS.
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