Originally Posted by messiaen
In the past composers were always borrowing melodies from each other, quoting other peoples tunes, altering them, just think of all the classical music derived from folk songs, did anyone get sued for that? !!and it happens in the visual arts all the time, I think this one thing is sad, let it all be free, and lets all make use of whatever we find and create something new with it!! Who really gives a **** anyway. If people sampled any music I made I would glad, at least they were making use of it
In this case Moses Pelham and his co "writer" took 2 instantly recognizable seconds of Kraftwerk and looped it to make the basis of "his" clearly commercial track. Decency would have been to give a credit and ask as basically it wasn't about progressing music, but about money.
There is a difference between making money off the back of other artists and being inspired and "quoting" them in your work.
When I first started out I sampled other artists for a few things. Then I honestly felt that if I want respect, I need to offer it so stopped (and would ask if I felt the urge to do it again)
Lot's of samples aren't even about the sound. It's simply about using something recognizable to make a commercial money making venture out of.
It's not art. It's often a way to make an uninspired artist get airplay and get noticed.
Coldplay for example used a Kraftwerk melody and they were credited on the release as co writers. I am sure this was a nice little earner for Kraftwerk and no skin off Coldplay's nose. Why should one side be the winner, that side being the one who didn't do the creating?
In this case, I doubt it was about money. Number 27 in the German charts is hardly going to make huge sums for Kraftwerk, but it's about respect.