New Snappy Analog Mono

[OntarioHydro]

just get a pro-one wtf

[Jesse381]

Originally Posted by schmuck

If the modded version of the studio electronics is not snappy enough, then I predict the OP falling asleep over the envelopes of the axxe...

(unless Axxe is different to odyssey, which I doubt - cools synths but if I had to name a shortcoming, apart from the pain to tune/finetune them with sliders, then it is the slow envelopes of the arps)

EDIT: Waldorf Pulse is snappy and can do bass!

all subjective I guess, they sound snappy to me. I'm not familiar with the se1 though

[Don Solaris]

Originally Posted by grumphh

Remember, i never claimed that the @Juno has the fastest bass of them all
Obviously there are synths that have way faster envelopes.

But in the context of a psytrance bassline, i think it can and does work.

Well your cool demo shows other qualities of a Alpha Juno. It's a very good synth, that's for sure.

Originally Posted by grumphh

What pricepoint does that fantastic zapp come at?

Bargain!


Here's another one. I'm sure you can guess the price range.

[goldphinga]

Phatty or voyager. End of story.

[G-d-S]

Originally Posted by goldphinga

Phatty or voyager. End of story.

Can the Phatty be considered as beeing snappy?

[grumphh]

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

Well your cool demo shows other qualities of a Alpha Juno. It's a very good synth, that's for sure.





Bargain!


Here's another one. I'm sure you can guess the price range.

Spill the beans, what particular synth is that? Prophet?

I can't even get a cleancut zapp like that out of my JP4

[Don Solaris]

Being a prankster, i guess i have to reveal it sooner or later.

The synth is: Cool Edit 2.0



The program came with magazine or something like that, many years ago.

All audio was created from blank document.


Anyway, i just wanted to point out what i mean by snappy envelope. And since i was in the office, far away from synths, this was all i had at disposal.

[brnslk]

Originally Posted by tvsky

so I am looking for a new mono with quick snappy envelopes , mainly to do psytrance basslines .

I wanted mono synth for exactly the same purpose, got mopho keyboard version and I can tell you it does psytrance bass very well

+ it's great source of weird psytrance fx sounds

[grumphh]

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

The synth is: Cool Edit 2.0




Anyway, i just wanted to point out what i mean by snappy envelope.

That settles it then - the OP needs a softsynth for true snap!

[Don Solaris]

Almost. Cool Edit is a non realtime sample editing software. Some of the math operations used in here are quite DSP hungry.

[goldphinga]

Originally Posted by G-d-S

Can the Phatty be considered as beeing snappy?

It's one of the snappiest around. Same envelope as the voyager. Superb

[audslu]

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

Way too slow.

As a fast snappy bass i'd consider something like this:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attac...hments-ssm.wav

Notice the speed and clarity of the bass click.

With that bassy zap you re kinda kinda cheating :P , but some layer it with bass to create punchy and strong attack.

About sw it's not any surprise sw envs are faster but snap is not just speed as you probably know better than me.

[phreak260]

can't go wrong with dark energy. lightening fast hardware envelopes.

[Entrainer]

Originally Posted by Bio

Ultimate snap is Cwejman envelopes. Not under 1000$, but if you need it, it's there.

Cwejman or Serge or Technosaurus are way faster. (like 10 or 20x)

agree. Cwejman S1MKII would be a worthy investment for you TVSKY...
Maybe sell something, save up. Buy S1MKII used.

I've found less is more, I like having FEWER but BETTER tools.

Just my opinion, but I know the type of music you like.

[himalaya]

Originally Posted by brnslk

I wanted mono synth for exactly the same purpose, got mopho keyboard version and I can tell you it does psytrance bass very well

+ it's great source of weird psytrance fx sounds

Here's Minibrute going through various 'psy' influenced basses and stuff. Drums used for context. Demos starts with the envelope just 'clicking', then it goes through various settings:

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stu...e_Psy_Bass.mp3

[Don Solaris]

Originally Posted by audslu

About sw it's not any surprise sw envs are faster but snap is not just speed as you probably know better than me.

As i always say, two synth things that do not exist in nature: pure square wave and linear envelopes.

[flextone]

Sounds like the FRXS is what you're after. modern sounding, snappy as hell, and way more versatile and intuitive than a Moog LP. I would go for either that or a vintage roland SH.

[Jesse381]

If you just want a new envelope filter, you should consider just getting a standalone unit and run the vco's of your SE1 through that instead. It would be much cheaper than buying a whole new synth just for a filter.

Check out the Robotalk Envelope Filter. Its all analog and supposedly based on an old oberheim filter. However they made it, it sounds amazing, super snappy/bright. At least for guitar/bass, I haven't heard a synth through it, but I don't see why a synth wouldn't sound great through it too, especially an analog vco.

Its a 2 channel filter too and only around $200 vs spending a grand on a whole new synth.

[tvsky]

thanks heaps to everyone who offered sugestions , it seemed to make the decision even tougher though! too much stuff to choose from!

really big thanks to himilaya and grumph for recording their own demos. they were very helpful !

im kinda thinking dark energy , minibrute or minataur/phatty . they are all cheap , reletively new and plentiful .........

[Sam an huel]

Yesterday i tried the Minitaur next to the Minibrute for an hour, until Mike Stern started playing in the shop. ^^

Minitaur has a great sound but it is so limited for the price. I still don't understand why the oscillator is not full range...total marketing crap to me.

I came back home with a free Mike Stern concert in the ears and the Minibrute in my arms.
It is as percussive as a synth can be. Not the Moog sound obviously but way more useful to me.

Try them all if possible.

[goldphinga]

Originally Posted by Sam an huel

Yesterday i tried the Minitaur next to the Minibrute for an hour, until Mike Stern started playing in the shop. ^^

Minitaur has a great sound but it is so limited for the price. I still don't understand why the oscillator is not full range...total marketing crap to me.

I came back home with a free Mike Stern concert in the ears and the Minibrute in my arms.
It is as percussive as a synth can be. Not the Moog sound obviously but way more useful to me.

Try them all if possible.

Each to their own. The minitaur is a less is more machine and it does what it does brilliantly. It's a BASS synth. The nature of the Taurus oscillator design means that it's range is limited due to current draw. It's not marketing crap it's inherent in the design. The brute is cool- tried one a few weeks back. it's more like an ms20/sh101 but it's not got the depth of sound the minitaur has for bass though it offers a lot for the money.

[Sam an huel]

the Taurus oscillator design means that it's range is limited due to current draw. it's inherent in the design

This is what i call marketing crap: the design/engineer argument. But that's just an opinion.

Now tell me it is built in North Carolina and i could change my mind about the cost and cuts in features.