I'm planning to upgrade my studio. I produce mainly house (the deeper side) and I heavily rely on samples. I already own a Maschine as hardware and a bunch of soft synths. The Minibrute would be my first analog synth which I'd use mainly for thick basses that a vst cannot reproduce. On the other hand Komplete is a stuffed bundle of useful tools like the rhodes, absynth, reaktor, Kontakt and so on....The price is the same (499€)...so which one I should go for?
I love Kontakt. It's probably my favorite piece of software. I have a Minibrute on preorder and am really looking forward to it but I don't think it's strong point is thick basses. I second the Minitaur.
From what I've heard the Minitaur would be better for very low-end bass than the Minibrute ; however, the 'brute appears more versatile ; and if anything you're producing in any way resembles the classic Italo sound, the Minibrute is the only modern analog synth I've heard so far to resemble Italian ( and possibly some Japanese ) synths of old, because of the distinctive filter design.
Not that I'm from Italy I should obviously produce Italo :D
No I prefer more the deep & soulful house to be honest. Probably I could stay ITB with the Komplete bundle + Diva and adding some outboard gear to add a bit of "analogue" warmth (it's so trendy nowadays) lol...
But I was so impressed by the Minibrute in action on youtube videos so...
You're not any under obligation to prefer Italo flavoured sounds...
But actually I think the Minibrute appears distinctively colourful and warm for all sorts of music, including maybe particularly soulful and funky music ; to me warm sounds are what makes the Italo sound, not the genre.
One of the best demos of the minibrute on youtube features some funky and jazzy playing, by musictrack.jp.
Minotaur is a one trick pony and not a fantastic sounding one. The mopho is ok but dco so youre losing analog signal path. Never used a minibrute but they look sick with complex waveform. Get a second hand jx roland they sell for about 400. Or doepfer dark matter theyre in the same price range too.
Probably I could stay ITB with the Komplete bundle + Diva and adding some outboard gear to add a bit of "analogue" warmth (it's so trendy nowadays) lol...
But I was so impressed by the Minibrute in action on youtube videos so...
I think the question is whether or not you want to stay ITB or explore using external synths. Because while analog synths do have that "analogness" that software has yet to match, the real advantage is the hands-on tweaking that doesn't work as well with ITB stuff. IMHO, anyway.
I'm planning to upgrade my studio. I produce mainly house (the deeper side) and I heavily rely on samples. I already own a Maschine as hardware and a bunch of soft synths. The Minibrute would be my first analog synth which I'd use mainly for thick basses that a vst cannot reproduce. On the other hand Komplete is a stuffed bundle of useful tools like the rhodes, absynth, reaktor, Kontakt and so on....The price is the same (499€)...so which one I should go for?
I think the question is whether or not you want to stay ITB or explore using external synths. Because while analog synths do have that "analogness" that software has yet to match, the real advantage is the hands-on tweaking that doesn't work as well with ITB stuff. IMHO, anyway.
I definitely agree with this. I feel pretty neutral when I'm tweaking things on a computer but when it's hands on analogue then I enter into a completely different zone. That's why I liked the look of the Minibrute-- its layout caters to this kind of creativity. I think that matters as much as sound because when your creativity is streamlined then you naturally workaround the gear's weak spots or limitations. But it sounds like you are after a specific sound though, not necessarily an experience.
Booth Minibrute and Kontakt are great things and invites to making house music, but they are very different:
Minibrute will give you a nice analog synth. Very limited, but indeed good in that box. If you have tons with sounds and software instruments go with this.
Kontakt will give you a great palette of endless sounds. If you are limited with your sound palette today go with this.
Really apples and oranges. Komplete gives you an absolutely ridiculous amount of sounds and different synths to work with. Minibrute is only monophonic and definitely not as flexible. However, it's analog. But it doesn't have patch memory.
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Really apples and oranges. Komplete gives you an absolutely ridiculous amount of sounds and different synths to work with. Minibrute is only monophonic and definitely not as flexible. However, it's analog. But it doesn't have patch memory.
You have softsynths allready.. what do you expect komplete do for you you cant do already? Providing you 25000 additional presets?
check synths in this price range before you buy one.. the mfb stuff is not uninteresting too..sounds more analog than the mopho for example.. you can get a second hand mopho and an unpopular yamaha dx module for the money..
or start building a modular synth setup...whatever.. i vote for bargain hardware devices to experiment with
Really apples and oranges. Komplete gives you an absolutely ridiculous amount of sounds and different synths to work with. Minibrute is only monophonic and definitely not as flexible. However, it's analog. But it doesn't have patch memory.
but is it important to collect sounds or is it important to finsih tracks? i dont think that a software monsterpack like complete allows you to finish anything when you really wanna use it.. except you go down the quick road and try theire presets... And even than it will need some month to get thru them..
While a cute little hardware synth might result in a brandnew track the very day you got it...
its not apples and pies that get compared here ..its day and night...
no patchmemory versus 25000 presets.. or was it 50000 ??
how many presets does complete hold? 25000 is realistic..or`?
You have softsynths allready.. what do you expect komplete do for you you cant do already? Providing you 25000 additional presets?
Are you serious? That's is as stupid as to say "you have a hardware synth already" to someone own a hardware synth and looking for one more as companion to another hardware synh.
I (and probably many other slutz) have zillions of presets, but always looking for new - hardware- as well as software presets. The tools in Komplete are exceptional good for the purpose OP has in mind and worth to considerate when he is about to expand the sonic palette. The Minibrute is also a nice tool to create house music presets with, also worth consideration. Two good choices, two different ways to go.
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...but is it important to collect sounds or is it important to finsih tracks?
Booth. I guess my way to work is not unique here: When not producing music there is a time for creating and collecting presets, try out different tools and technics etc. When it's time to produce something thing speeds up and there is no time to try out things. It is very important to take that time between the productions to try out new stuff to be able to fast and creative finish tracks so that they will progress for every production.
thanks for feedbacks guys....now I'm far more confused than before but thanks anyway
I think I'll go for the Komplete bundle for now....with only a mono synth I feel I could bit a bit limitated, although real analogue. The genre I usually produce rely more on the way you put your pieces inside the track and the "feel" than the sound of the lead/bass sound as for pure electronic music.
At the moment I'll stay ITB and I'll keep improving my sound design skills....when it will be the time I'll check for a polyphonic analogue synth
Are you serious? That's is as stupid as to say "you have a hardware synth already" to someone own a hardware synth and looking for one more as companion to another hardware synh.
This *is* audioconsult you are responding to. He suffers from presetaphobia, so give him a break.
You have softsynths allready.. what do you expect komplete do for you you cant do already? Providing you 25000 additional presets?
check synths in this price range before you buy one.. the mfb stuff is not uninteresting too..sounds more analog than the mopho for example.. you can get a second hand mopho and an unpopular yamaha dx module for the money..
or start building a modular synth setup...whatever.. i vote for bargain hardware devices to experiment with
Even with all those presets I still find other synths that get the job done better faster.
Komplete might be to much at time,and searching through all that is time consuming.
Even with all those presets I still find other synths that get the job done better faster.
Komplete might be to much at time,and searching through all that is time consuming.
It's all about learning the tools one have, then the job can be creative and fast done with almost any tools propriate for the task. To have access to much presets and tools such Komplete is not a bad thing. A good thing is to learn the different tools one by one during a longer period. Kontakt is t most powerful sampler I ever worked with, Absynth gives wonderful soundscapes, Massive is a highly useful tool for EDM, etc.
Minibrute as well as Komplete are very different but booth are fantastic tools in their special way. Minibrute is not my kind of analog synth, but still, it is hard to resist - it's soo cool.
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